OT Khashoggi

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  1. CupWizier

    CupWizier Well-Known Member

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    I believe it was said that he is up to over 5,000 false statements since he campaigned. Such a (cl)ass act.
     
  2. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    I tend to agree with you except I couldn't say non existent.
     
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    Just doesn't seem they made it a priority from the Gov down?
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    It's not something the State would have anything to do with. It's up to the Portland Police and they haven't been doing enough in my book.
     
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    I was referring to the Chicago murder crisis.
    The city and State should have stepped up a number of years ago with this, has why its out of hand now.
     
  6. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Red herring on multiple counts.

    First, Wolkowitz wasn't murdered because he was a journalist, he was a journalist who was murdered. In this country, our constitution guarantees freedom of the press. That includes the freedom not to be murdered for writing unflattering things about those in charge. You can say that Khashoggi wasn't a US citizen, but he was a legal resident of this country working for a US paper exercising his freedom of the press and was murdered for doing so.

    "Hubbard was charged with first-degree attempted murder, third-degree possession of a weapon for an unlawful purpose and first-degree bias intimidation. He remains in custody."

    Let us know when anyone is arrested and charged with the murder of Khashoggi. Until then, and unless they take action, our government is complicit in this murder and attempted cover-up. Even if Trump's buddy, the Saudi Prince didn't directly order this murder, anything he attempts to do to cover it up makes him an accessory after the fact.

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    What do you expect our government to do about this?
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    The right thing:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...uld-you/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.b474c7931cd9

    If we turn our heads and do nothing and blindly support a government that murders it's critics, we become part of the problem.

    I also think it's ludicrous to allow the murder suspects to be in charge of the murder investigation. They've already lied and changed their official story multiple times.

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    It is Saudi sovereign property. There’s not a lot we can do other than posture.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Nothing we can do to prosecute the murderers, but we can impose sanctions for what's clearly a human rights violation. The murder taking place at the Saudi embassy in Turkey didn't stop the Germans from halting arms sales to Saudi Arabia. Why should it stop us?

    Again, if we continue to support a regime that murders it's critics, we are part of the problem.

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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Of course there's something we could do and should do.
    Now, suppose it was an American citizen murdered in a Saudi Embassy. Would you still take a hands off approach?
    This guy worked for us and his death should be investigated with appropriate punishement. This is what will happen thanks to our Republican friends getting on board with this outrage.
     
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    There won't be any punishment. The guys that committed the act are back in Saudi Arabia and the whole thing was orchestrated by the crown prince anyway.
     
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    The punishment would be the cancelling of arms sales, which so far are contracted for about $4 Billion and not the $500+ Billion Trump is wildly throwing around. The punishment would also include severe sanctions.

    The crown Prince has to go.
     
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    Not gonna happen.
     
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    According to an awful lot of Congressmen from both sides of the aisle, they're gonna get some serious pressure. If Trump enacts what Congress will likely direct him to enact, then the Saudis are going to be in serious trouble.
     
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    We shall see.
     
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    Yeah, I don't really know but I've got wishful thinking for sure.
     
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    These Muslim theocracies thats believe in Jihad use justified killings as a way to keep control. Its nothing new and had has been going on for centuries.
    You cannot wear Levi's or drink alcohol in SA or you could be punished to a great degree.
    They still execute people for adultery there.

    The best thing we can do in the spirit of human rights is to quit allowing them to finance, bankroll many US interest and organizations/foundations. Insult their pride by not taking their money. They can spend money where they want so there are many vendors outs that would want their gun business.Reduce the amount of Saudi Oil we purchase, they want us dependent on them.
     
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    We should send Trump there.
     
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    We did - apparently they can look the other way just like fundamentalists here.

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