<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Jan 28 2008, 08:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Collins must stay! I want his 6 million expiring contract next year.</div> Only Net fans would turn Kidd's baby-ass ****-you attitude into a referendum on Collins.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Jan 28 2008, 09:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Jan 28 2008, 08:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Collins must stay! I want his 6 million expiring contract next year.</div> Only Net fans would turn Kidd's baby-ass ****-you attitude into a referendum on Collins. </div> haha hey I didn't bring it up! Although I will say that trading Kidd sheds a different light on our players, and allows them the opportunity to be seen with newfound advantages and disadvantages.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Universe @ Jan 28 2008, 08:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So we should just bench Kidd and start Marcus shouldn't we? Everyone knows what you're going to get with Kidd, don't add injury to insult.</div> They shouldn't start Marcus, just because it would hurt Kidd's trade value.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lavalamp @ Jan 28 2008, 09:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Universe @ Jan 28 2008, 08:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So we should just bench Kidd and start Marcus shouldn't we? Everyone knows what you're going to get with Kidd, don't add injury to insult.</div> They shouldn't start Marcus, just because it would hurt Kidd's trade value. </div> Everyone knows what he is capable of though. Kidd gets some rest which is good for the team we are dealing him too. Kidd's value is as low as it can go unless he actually got hurt.
We can't bench Kidd for a few reasons: 1) Absolutely nobody on the team will play hard if they know Kidd is riding pine. Maybe Marcus and old man Armstrong will, but you all know for a fact that the young guys in the middle feed off of Kidd. 2) Kidd is in a tough position with his agent breathing down his neck to get a huge contract from the next team, but that doesn't mean he doesn't want to play. 3) No organization in this situation is going to make a stand like benching Kidd after seeing what happened to Philly. Look at what rebuilding has gotten them. Who the hell goes to 76ers games?? Less people than Nets games. 4) I traded LaMarcus Aldridge and Deron Williams to get Kidd (and Gooden). I also have Jermaine Oneal and Shaq. This is NOT happening.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Jan 28 2008, 09:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If we're trading Kidd, we're rebuilding, so why not get to going and start Marcus asap?</div> It gives us slightly better position if we at least keep the pretense that if the right trade doesn't come along than we'll wait for next year...I mean we are only 1/2 game out of the 8th seed...2 games out of the 7th and 5 out of the 6th seed...that's still withing reach. Just cause Kidd wants to be traded doesnt mean we have to.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jloc857 @ Jan 28 2008, 09:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Jan 28 2008, 09:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If we're trading Kidd, we're rebuilding, so why not get to going and start Marcus asap?</div> It gives us slightly better position if we at least keep the pretense that if the right trade doesn't come along than we'll wait for next year...I mean we are only 1/2 game out of the 8th seed...2 games out of the 7th and 5 out of the 6th seed...that's still withing reach. Just cause Kidd wants to be traded doesnt mean we have to. </div> ummmm so we keep a super star who has given up and who will give a half ass effort while others are giving full??? F dat sit his ass.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (footswalker @ Jan 28 2008, 07:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Too bad they didn't make the trade last year. They probably could have gotten Farmar and Odom. Instead, Thorne insisted on Bynum, and now they are going to get nothing but stiffs and scraps for one of the best pure point guards of all time. Nice work, Rod.</div> Lakers were offering Kwameeee Brown and V- Rad + Farmer for Kidd last season, they balked w/ Bynum and almost did part w/ Bynum but Kupcakes finally thought it out instead of listening to Kobe. Thorn did the right thing last season and the season came down to Wince Carter screwing up a beautiful possible thing in the playoffs.
I'm just saying if you send him home we're absolutely put in the worst possible scenario in terms of trade leverage...I mean we don't want to get completely raped in this trade do we?
I think the 76er scenario had more to do with that idiot (and since fired) GM Billy King, than it did PR strategies.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jloc857 @ Jan 28 2008, 09:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm just saying if you send him home we're absolutely put in the worst possible scenario in terms of trade leverage...I mean we don't want to get completely raped in this trade do we?</div> and if we let him play. What does that say about us. You can say whatever and it's accepted?? This team organization needs to man up seriously. The truth is we are going to get rape either way. He has come out and said he doesn't want to be here. Name one trade involving a super star that fair value was given after they stated they wanted to leave??? The only thing to do now is to try to put us in a good position for the future. IE: Hornets Magic and Pistons
I'm actually a little upset, I'd rather see vince go to another team because i'm tired of watching the nets play. They're not going anywhere anytime soon unless they get a dominent player like tmac or shaq.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jloc857 @ Jan 28 2008, 09:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm just saying if you send him home we're absolutely put in the worst possible scenario in terms of trade leverage...I mean we don't want to get completely raped in this trade do we?</div> no not true because alot of teams would love Kidd to move a PG who is really a combo to the bench role and strengthen the floor balance ... example..if the Lakers really think about it the need a PG Kidd to LA this would make them balanced when Bynum returns, Kobe is happy w/ Kidd, Ariza becomes a starter, Fisher goes to what he should be a 6th man, NJ would recieve Walton high I.Q. SF, Javaris talented combo guard who can ball, Lamar who needs a change of scenary and would be a good gamble in NJ and Sun Yue a talented foreign big who could be something. another scenerio to Golden State wha.... yup never count out GS getting into a 3-way Denver would also be an option I don't think Dallas is unless they get a 4-way or 3-way
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>get a dominent player like tmac</div> T-mac dominant? Not only is he injury prone, but his ass has never been out of the first round. And Shaq? He is no where close to what he used to be. If he manages to step on the court, it still won't mean the Nets will get far.
dint the nugz offer Iverson for Kidd? Thats sound the best for us but the nets want young ppl and expring contracts, I would think they would offer Nene but hes got that big cancer problem I think. So then theres Camby, but hes old and it would mess up theres defense. But that would also make us a better defensive team. The Lakers dont have enough to offer if there not gonna give up bynum or maybe we could get Bynum in the deal if we include Boone or Sean?? The only team that makes sense is Dallas, cant wait to see Devin Harris, Tarry, or Stackhouse soon......
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jtballa2o1 @ Jan 28 2008, 10:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>dint the nugz offer Iverson for Kidd? Thats sound the best for us but the nets want young ppl and expring contracts, I would think they would offer Nene but hes got that big cancer problem I think. So then theres Camby, but hes old and it would mess up theres defense. But that would also make us a better defensive team. The Lakers dont have enough to offer if there not gonna give up bynum or maybe we could get Bynum in the deal if we include Boone or Sean“ The only team that makes sense is Dallas, cant wait to see Devin Harris, Tarry, or Stackhouse soon......</div> not a chance in hell, have you seen what Bynum's been doing this season ?, Harris is out 2 to 3 weeks who knows but they would have to add a draft pick to make it work for NJ. this is the best type of deal imo Kidd proposed deal
