<div class="quote_poster">Quoting yanix:</div><div class="quote_post">i dont think Kidd would want to move to Portland. he wants to be on a team that has a good chance of winning a championship. and i dont think Portland has any even with Kidd on board.</div> A team of Kidd/Anderson/Miles/Randolph/Ratliff will have no chance at a championship? I think that's good for at least 55 wins. The team would have lots of depth, somewhat like the 99/00 team that Portland had.
Trip, Don't forget NVE. The only weakness in that line-up is a lack of back-up big men. If Kidd goes to Portland they will undoubtedly lose SAR, meaning that they don't have a 4 or 5 coming off the bench (screw Stephania, don't even mention him).
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Jurassic:</div><div class="quote_post">Trip, Don't forget NVE. The only weakness in that line-up is a lack of back-up big men. If Kidd goes to Portland they will undoubtedly lose SAR, meaning that they don't have a 4 or 5 coming off the bench (screw Stephania, don't even mention him).</div> Very true. The frontcourt will be weak, but I guess the Blazers would try and trade Qyntel Woods or Ruben Patterson to get Aaron Williams or Brian Scalabrine. Basically, I don't think they would be willing to trade Abdur-Rahim without getting any frontcourt help in return.
How does this deal sound: Portland trades: PF Shareef Abdur-Rahim PG Damon Stoudamire The rights to SG Sergey Monya New Jersey Trades: PG Jason Kidd C Alonzo Mourning PF Aaron Williams The contracts match up and this deal is much more reasonable than one just involving Kidd and Shareef. Both teams get what they need. The key for Monya, a defensive sg for their future, and getting all the cap space, they can land a big free-agent next year. The Blazers get Kidd and frontcourt help.
100 Bucks says Jason Kidd will stay put and remain a Net for the rest of the off-season, and surprise everyone by actually leading the Nets to the playoffs again. I don't know why he wants a trade considering he still has Jefferson. Losing Martin wasn't a major infliction to the squad.
I would love to see it happen being from Portland myself. We could send Van Excel along with SAR maybe. Also, Trip, I can't see us giving up Ruben Patterson any time soon. Well I doubt Kidd wants to stay put since he's demanding a trade... We'll be able to see if Jefferson can lead a team.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chungster:</div><div class="quote_post">100 Bucks says Jason Kidd will stay put and remain a Net for the rest of the off-season, and surprise everyone by actually leading the Nets to the playoffs again. I don't know why he wants a trade considering he still has Jefferson. Losing Martin wasn't a major infliction to the squad.</div> The things you say sometimes just want to make me laugh.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Bay_Area_Fan:</div><div class="quote_post">The contracts match up and this deal is much more reasonable than one just involving Kidd and Shareef. Both teams get what they need. The key for Monya, a defensive sg for their future, and getting all the cap space, they can land a big free-agent next year. The Blazers get Kidd and frontcourt help.</div> Oh man, please explain to me how getting Alonzo Mourning is frontcourt help.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Jurassic:</div><div class="quote_post">Oh man, please explain to me how getting Alonzo Mourning is frontcourt help. </div> I was actually referring to Aaron Williams. I just threw Mourning in as a filler to make the deal work cap-wise.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Losing Martin wasn't a major infliction to the squad.</div> Please justify that point, because left with just that, it seems pure non-sense.
Posted by Trip: "A team of Kidd/Anderson/Miles/Randolph/Ratliff will have no chance at a championship? I think that's good for at least 55 wins. The team would have lots of depth, somewhat like the 99/00 team that Portland had." Whoah whoah whoah.....No chance of a championship? The 99-00 Portland team? We could have easily beaten the pacers that year, we were so close to beating the Lakers in game 7. If we didnt have that collapse and we went on to the finals, think of the confidence boost we would have. THat team did have a very good chance to win a title. Best blazers since the 1992 team.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Trip:</div><div class="quote_post">Well, Damon Stoudamire and Van Exel are also experienced in their own right and would be good to teach Telfair as long as Damon doesn't teach him to smoke. </div> Oh C'mon. You don't think Telfair learned that on his own playing in NY playgrounds all his life? By the way, <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> The Nets are baffled why Portland's president, Steve Patterson, made comments Tuesday indicating that actual trade talks involving Kidd and Abdur-Rahim had occurred. He was quoted on CBSSportsline.com as saying talks regarding the two players are "interesting, but I don't know if anything will happen." </div> Full Story Here A few more things. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">maybe if the Blazers offered some young players like Randolph or something it can happen because the Nets are in the rebuilding stage.</div> They're trying to groom Randolph to be their franchise player, so that ain't happening. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I read that since Sebastian is a Native of Brooklyn...he would want to be traded to New Jersey so Reef and Telfair for Kidd.</div> I'm pretty sure Telfair can't be traded until December. A Reef for Kidd trade, while I don't see it happening, could surprisingly work contractually. Kidd makes just under $15 mil this season, and 'Reef makes $14. And a couple people mentioned that NJ is in a "rebuilding" stage. I don't know if that's the most accurate word to protray what's going on there. "Rebuilding" typically refers to a team that's trying to looking to build a quality team in the future. It seems NJ is purely in a cost-cutting mode, and not too concerned with what they get back in trades in return. All I have to say is that I feel really bad for NJ fans, if there are any still left. And that's coming from a Celtics fan. Owners like this should be banned from buying NBA teams, it's not fair to the fans.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Bobcats:</div><div class="quote_post">The things you say sometimes just want to make me laugh.</div> The things you say should have not been posted. The Lakers lost Shaq, and you don't see everybody saying it was a major infliction. I thought so.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting celtfan:</div><div class="quote_post">And a couple people mentioned that NJ is in a "rebuilding" stage. I don't know if that's the most accurate word to protray what's going on there. "Rebuilding" typically refers to a team that's trying to looking to build a quality team in the future. It seems NJ is purely in a cost-cutting mode, and not too concerned with what they get back in trades in return. </div> True Dat. They also unloaded Kittles and Sweet Lu Harris for nothing, just to avoid paying them. And Kittles was in the last year of his contrace, I believe. They only strange part is that they signed Jefferson to an extension, which doesn't sound like putting your eggs in the right basket, if you asked me.
Kidd fits in Lakerland <div class="quote_poster">Quoting yanix:</div><div class="quote_post">i dont think Kidd would want to move to Portland. he wants to be on a team that has a good chance of winning a championship. and i dont think Portland has any even with Kidd on board.</div> I still think Kidd fits in best with the Lakers. The Lakers have the players with disposeable salaries that will allow the Nets cap room next year or give them some young talent, while the Lakers can wait for Kidd to rehab along with Malone for a December return. Kidd and Malone would make the Lakers contenders for a fifteenth title with their return. The Lakers management needs to get out there and let JKidd know he is wanted and let the Nets management know what they have to offer.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The things you say should have not been posted.</div> Wow, what a great comeback. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The Lakers lost Shaq, and you don't see everybody saying it was a major infliction. I thought so.</div> First of all you avoided hagrids question, and second the Lakers actually got something good in return. They got 3 players, a future draft pick, and most importantly they actually have depth now. The Nets got 3 draft picks. They are building for the future. The Lakers believe Kobe can lead them to victory now. So before you make one of your idiotic statements you always make, try thinking before you post.
If you read the post that I am replying to, you'll know that I am saying that the Blazers would win with that kind of roster. And also, note the question mark (?) I have at the end.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Bobcats:</div><div class="quote_post">Wow, what a great comeback. </div> What kind of a reply is this? <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> First of all you avoided hagrids question,</div> I never avoided Hagrid's question. The Nets still have an uprising Jefferson and Kidd who is in his prime so how is it a major infliction? So since you lose one of your key guys, it's automatically a major infliction? When Michael Jordan retired the first time, the Bulls won 55 games and almost went to the conference finals prior, and they didn't even get anything "in return for Jordan". <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> and second the Lakers actually got something good in return. They got 3 players, a future draft pick, and most importantly they actually have depth now.</div> Idiot, didn't I say that Shaq's departure wasn't a major infliction in people's perspective? <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> The Nets got 3 draft picks. They are building for the future. </div> No, Really? <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> The Lakers believe Kobe can lead them to victory now.</div> Hence, Shaq's departure wasn't a major infliction. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> So before you make one of your idiotic statements you always make, try thinking before you post.</div> You always call other people's post idiotic while telling them to think before the post to get your argument through huh?
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I never avoided Hagrid's question. The Nets still have an uprising Jefferson and Kidd who is in his prime so how is it a major infliction? So since you lose one of your key guys, it's automatically a major infliction? When Michael Jordan retired the first time, the Bulls won 55 games and almost went to the conference finals prior, and they didn't even get anything "in return for Jordan".</div> Yes, Kidd is still one of the best in the game, but his knees are getting to him, and he has a contract nobody wants. This is why I think the Blazers should trade Shareef for someone else, or else they won't have cap space next year. The Nets have Jason Collins at center who is a bad rebounder. Then at PF they have Aaron Williams. Now, I think he's actually pretty good off the bench, but I don't think he will last long. Jefferson is a good player, so I'm not going to argue with that. Now at SG we have Ron Mercer. He will give you a good game here and there, but he can't give you consistent games. In Martin they lose a double-double threat, an all-star, and someone who pumps up the crowd. Granted they are in the weakest division in the entire league, but if Kidd goes down for a little bit, then Jefferson has basically no one to help him. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Idiot, didn't I say that Shaq's departure wasn't a major infliction in people's perspective?</div> Idiot, I'm saying they got something decent in return. I never said it wasn't a major infliction. So do you think the Lakers will take the pacific and no. 2 seed again? <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Hence, Shaq's departure wasn't a major infliction.</div> Hence, they will not be any higher than a 4th seed. The teams already penciled in to be better are: the Spurs, the Wolves, the Kings, The Rockets, and the Nuggets. And you have the Jazz that are only getting better and so are the Suns. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">You always call other people's post idiotic while telling them to think before the post to get your argument through huh?</div> Oh yes, I always call people idiotic right after I post right?
Why in the world would the Nets want to let Kidd go...They already have lost some key player in Kittles adn martin, now Kidd. This team is slowly falling and don't expect to see them go to far if they continue to get rid of the nucleus of their team.
