(Kinda OT) Chris Dudley getting caught up in this whole Kavanaugh mess

If this happened to me 36 years ago, I would absolutely forget the little details but the sexual assault itself would be burned into my brain forever.

 

Or do we want to tell them they can be found guilty of a crime they didn’t commit with no evidence, just an accusation no matter how good a person they are

 

Serious question: Have you ever been sexually assaulted?

I have. I was 10. She was my 16 year old babysitter.

My mother still doesn't know. I've told only a chosen few.

Now the forum knows.

Certain details are fuzzy but there are things You NEVER forget.
Her facial expressions. Her lies to get my pants down. I've even seen her in passing and when I look at her she knows I remember.

That bitch better not run for public office!

Kavanaugh did it bro. He really did.

 

Well, only if they are democrats.

 

For example: I remember 1987 when my ex-girlfriend made out with a guy at a dance but I don’t remember fucking drove me to the dance.

 

Yes.

 

We’ll see what the FBI says.

 

Her recent memory was scatterbrained as well. Not just stuff from 35 years ago.

 

Yep, the Republicans tried to buy that race for Dudley:

"Dudley raised and spent a total of $10.3 million, the largest amount ever in a governor's campaign. Kitzhaber raised and spent $7.4 million."

So, in spite of spending 40% more than Kitzhaber, Dudley still lost.

BNM

 

HOW DID KITZHABER TURN OUT?

 

>>> I am not sure how the Clinton investigation fits in here. But, I was always irritated by that investigation.
I found it silly and totally the wrong thing to do. I do not think the President should be distracted from his duties with investigations while in office. This single error may of contributed to some of the disaster we had following his Presidency because he only had time
to order a few missiles lobbed while he was in office rather that getting to the bottom of the many threats at hand.

>>> See above.

Ah! There is that punchable face again? Intriguing!
I wonder if the face needs explaining? Or is it the mind that is conceiving the perception?

 

You are bragging about democratic governors that have turned Portland into a cesspool with all the homelessness and drug use, and some of the worst schools in the country... not to mention Kitzhaber resigned due to an ethics scandal

 

I listen to both testimonies and here's my take away. Because he expressed bias against the Clintons in one of his response, that alone was enough for me not to confirm him. We need unbiased Justices! And I think the Clintons are both selfish and corrupt and well mow anyone down to get what they want.
And SCJ shouldn't be for life.

Her testimony was only a bit compelling to me as she couldn't remember how she got there, where the house was and how she got home.
And I thought for a professor that is well educated, she came across very babyish and confused, very child like. She was imo being dramatic in a kid like way.
I think she was taken advantage of by her attorneys and the dem's for not allowing her to be interviewed in private as was her wish way earlier. Pretty obvious what their strategy was.

 

So, for those that are saying that Kavanaugh shouldn't be on the Supreme Court because he allegedly lied under oath.....

Bill Clinton perjured himself under oath. So you would agree that he should have been impeached because of this? If you are consistent with your high moral ground stance, you would say "yes".

I, on the other hand, thought that it was complete BS to begin with.

 

Ever been sexually assaulted?

If not you only have your perspective.

Listen to the perspective of those who havehave.

Ronald Reagan fan? His daughter was sexually assaulted and she never reported it and didn't remember lots of the details.

I was sexually assaulted. Here’s why I don’t remember many of the details.

Roughly 40 years ago, I showed up at a prominent music executive’s office for an appointment that had been scheduled suspiciously late in the workday. But I wasn’t suspicious. I was instead eager to try to place some of my original songs with artists he represented. One of my songs had appeared on the Eagles album “One of These Nights,” and I was hoping to turn songwriting into a career.

I brought along a cassette tape of my material, but I don’t remember what the executive said about the songs. Nor do I recall what we talked about. I remember the sky turning dark outside the window behind his desk. I remember sensing that people had left the building and we were there alone. I remember his face, his hair and what he was wearing. When he pulled a vial of cocaine out of his desk drawer and started chopping up lines on a small mirror, I’m 90 percent sure I declined his offer to do some with him, not because I didn’t do drugs — I definitely did in those years — but because I was starting to feel uncomfortable. My memory of the discomfort is sharp and clear, but my memory of declining the coke is, as I said, about 90 percent.

What happened next, though, is indelible. He crossed the room. There was a dark-green carpet, but his footsteps seemed loud, hard. He was against me, on top of me — so quickly — with his hands under my skirt and his mouth on mine, that I froze. I lay there as he pushed himself inside me. The leather couch stuck to my skin, made noises beneath me. His breath smelled like coffee and stale bread. He didn’t use a condom. I remember leaving afterward, driving home, the night around me glittered with streetlights and alive with people out at dinner or bars. I felt alone, ashamed and disgusted with myself. Why didn’t I get out of there? Why didn’t I push him off? Why did I freeze?

I don’t remember what month it was. I don’t remember whether his assistant was still there when I arrived. I don’t remember whether we said anything to each other when I left his office.

I never told anyone for decades — not a friend, not a boyfriend, not a therapist, not my husband when I got married years later.

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As Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh faces a sexual misconduct allegation, columnist Ruth Marcus asks, who's responsible for the burden of proof? (Gillian Brockell/The Washington Post)

It doesn’t surprise me one bit that for more than 30 years, Christine Blasey Ford didn’t talk about the assault she remembers, the one she accuses Supreme Court nominee Brett M. Kavanaugh of committing.

It’s important to understand how memory works in a traumatic event. Ford has been criticized for the things she doesn’t remember, like the address where she says the assault happened, or the time of year, or whose house it was. But her memory of the attack itself is vivid and detailed. His hand over her mouth, another young man piling on, her fear that maybe she’d die there, unable to breathe. That’s what happens: Your memory snaps photos of the details that will haunt you forever, that will change your life and live under your skin. It blacks out other parts of the story that really don’t matter much.

Ford wants the FBI to investigate so that some of the details she doesn’t remember can be established. It’s a brave request. Perhaps the aging men who are poised to interrogate her, unless they hide behind surrogates, should pause for a moment and think about the courage it takes for a woman to say: Here is my memory. It has haunted me for decades. It changed my life. You need to know about it now because of what is at stake for this country.

Requesting an investigation into the incident isn’t a big ask. Unless they just want her to go away. Which is, by the way, one reason that women are scared to speak up.

 

Unfortunately, we (as in we, the people) don't get to decide. Those deciding are a bunch of greedy old white men who are are more (only) concerned about pushing through a nominee who will do their bidding than they are about today's teenagers (or anyone else other than their fellow cronies). This isn't about doing what's best for the future of this country, it's about doing what's best for those who are currently in power and doing everything possible, no matter how immoral, unethical and even illegal, to keep themselves in power.

BNM

 

Either would be responses to a question.

 

Don't say stupid things.

He's in a job interview dude.

We're deciding if he's fit for the job.

Plain and fucking simple.