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  1. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/...-to-strip-ethics-office-of-independent-status

    House Republicans abruptly voted Monday night to effectively weaken the independent Office of Congressional Ethics that investigates lawmakers’ alleged misconduct.​

    Weaken, not get rid of.

    But do carry on.

    But the office has its detractors, including lawmakers and staffers on both sides of the aisle who claimed they have been unfairly treated. And there have been public turf wars with the Ethics Committee itself.

    "There’s been numerous examples, and we heard some of them in there today, of members who have falsely been accused by this group who had to spend a fortune to have their good name restored," said Representative Hal Rogers of Kentucky, who said he supported the measure. "I think there has been an abuse."

    Some House Republicans, including Representative Dennis Ross of Florida, said there had been some concerns raised during the closed-door meeting Monday night of the optics of placing new limitations on a government watchdog days before Trump takes office. But he said the majority of the Republicans felt it was time to fix problems with the OCE.​
     
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    More from the link:

    On Tuesday morning, McCarthy confirmed that he had opposed the approval of the amendment but said he would vote for the rules package that contained it.

    "It’s not what all the headlines were saying," McCarthy said on MSNBC. "The reforms do not change the entity."

    He said the changes had earlier had bipartisan support to make investigations more fair.

    "One thing we firmly believe in America is due process," he added. "People have a right to defend themselves if they’re being accused of something."​
     
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    NYTimes gets something right. It is put up or shut up time.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/02/us/politics/republicans-congress-trump-white-house.html?_r=0

    Republicans Stonewalled Obama. Now the Ball Is in Their Court.

    WASHINGTON — It’s put-up or shut-up time for Republicans.

    After a tumultuous decade that has seen profound changes in the makeup and character of their party, Republicans are poised to complete their slow but steady climb back to power as they seize control of the House, Senate and the White House for the first time since 2006.

    That political triad will leave them with a splendid opportunity for success. But there is little room for failure if they hope to satisfy their impatient constituents and deliver on bold promises to reshape the nation’s health care delivery system, restructure the tax code, drive job creation, muscle up American foreign policy, rebuild a crumbling infrastructure and set America on a new course.
     
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    blue32 Who wants a mustache ride?

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    As if this department was any good anyway. Come on, don't be so naive that this was some shining knight of justice.

    Twitter is full of garbage.
     
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    How many of those people on the EOC were placed their by Obama/Clinton?
     
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    Denny: warrior for Truth!
     
  8. Denny Crane

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    Beats the lies in your tweets.

    When you post something that's true, I'll acknowledge it, too.
     
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    You do realize you pasted a tweet that said the ETHICS COMMITTEE was disbanded, right?

    You might want to fact check that one, yourself.
     
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    This one.

    The 2 or 3 before it were bullshit, too.
     
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    blue32 Who wants a mustache ride?

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    hahaha I knew you would link this and try to attribute this to Trump. Holy shit epic.
     
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    What about this one?

    (That's a question, by the way. He's not great on punctuation.)
     
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    "As unfair as it is."

    And you think he's telling the truth? (weakening...) - hint: he is.
     
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    The Dems are just pissed they can't do their infamous "sit-in's" or "fart-ins" anymore since the Republicans put in provisions to punish lawmakers for those antics. Thank god.
     
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    Hey Denny! Fact check this one:



    Still waiting for the explanation of why this is a good thing and so important that it's literally the first thing they do.
     
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    Trump never tells the truth except by accident. He's not interested in the truth. He may not even believe there is one.
     
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    You live in your mom's basement.
     
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    You do realize that:

    1) Abramoff, and many others were accused of crimes and sent to prison before this committee even existed:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...ndals_in_the_United_States#Legislative_Branch

    2) Even with this committee, Chakka Fattah and others were accused of crimes and sent to prison even though this committee did nothing.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_political_scandals_in_the_United_States#Legislative
    http://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/judge-upholds-chaka-fattah-conviction

    Go ahead and fact check what I just wrote.

    Bzzzzt. As wrong as most of your other posts.

    But keep 'em coming.
     
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    :lol:
     

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