Sickkkkk game and sick windmill off the no-look pass from Jalen. We go back to New York on Saturday and it will be amazing if we can get Marshall back to provide us with more spark off the bench with his scoring and rebounding. His presence was solely missed yesterday against the Wizards... Considering the NBA scheduler did the Raptors no favour for the first month of the season, I think the Raps are in an excellent position. With the win today we retook the lead in Atlantic Division. Mitchell should've put Bosh back in the game so he could grab one more board for the third consecutive double-double But oh well, a win is all that counts!
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting VinKanaddy:</div><div class="quote_post">Sickkkkk game and sick windmill off the no-look pass from Jalen. We go back to New York on Saturday and it will be amazing if we can get Marshall back to provide us with more spark off the bench with his scoring and rebounding. His presence was solely missed yesterday against the Wizards... Considering the NBA scheduler did the Raptors no favour for the first month of the season, I think the Raps are in an excellent position. With the win today we retook the lead in Atlantic Division. Mitchell should've put Bosh back in the game so he could grab one more board for the third consecutive double-double But oh well, a win is all that counts!</div> But the best part about it all was Aruajo getting some playing time. He is like our Darko Millicic. lol. he had like 3 straight fouls and that was it, but he still got 2 play.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting MaxaMillion711:</div><div class="quote_post">That was one of Vince's best dunks in recent years....agreed?</div> Vince has been doing many great dunks in recent years. Last year (correct me if I'm wrong) I believe he had some serious dunk over Ben Wallace. Vince's windmill today was small compared to many dunks of late.
Nope not agreed, you forgot Vince's full windmill versus the Cavs last season on the fastbreak and a 360 one hand versus the Knicks also last season.
That was a kind of awkward looking windmill with the position he was in the air and he didn't fully rotate his shoulder blades either but all in all, that looked nice. Good to see Vince is playing like he's capable of for one game. If he continues to play this way consistently then I will decease with dissing him on his weak attitude. If he is not being detrimental to the Raptors as a unit and is showing some heart, I have no problem with him.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">Vince has been doing many great dunks in recent years. Last year (correct me if I'm wrong) I believe he had some serious dunk over Ben Wallace. Vince's windmill today was small compared to many dunks of late.</div> That was 2 years ago when he did the jabo n Stackhouse and then drove and threw it down
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">That was 2 years ago when he did the jabo n Stackhouse and then drove and threw it down</div> That was actually 3 seasons ago....doesn't seem that long though <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">That was one of Vince's best dunks in recent years....agreed?</div> Recent for me is his past 2 seasons, and he has had quite a few nicer dunks than that over that time. Palacio, og's fav player, was great today, especially in the first half (2nd Quarter).
I know man, I was so proud of my boy Palacio, already voted him as an All-Star, hope to see him there in February, and not on the bench, but participating, go Palacio.
mrj18 - you make it sound like the knicks are handsdown better than the raps. Hell i dont think they're even on the same level, let alone obviously better!!?? The knicks are one of the most overrated teams in the league. They're stacked with has beens, wash ups and never were's. You've got player after player with max or close to max contract. They're the most inconsistent bunch in the league by far. Tim Thomas, Crawford, Penny, Nazr....and now there looking for E. Robinson and Glen Robinson....2 more inconsistent players that havent lived up to their contract. 5 of their first 8 players are of the "throw up shots, play no defence" mentality. You say they have more option...well options doesnt win you ball games...the Knicks arent a team...they're a grouping of one-time, and SOMEtimes still, talented players wearing the same clothing in close proximity....not a team. You say they're bench is more "reliable" than the raps...well the knicks have 4 players that average in double digits for points...as do the raps, then it goes 8,8,7,5,4,2 and then several sub 1pt per game; while the raps are 8,7,7,6,5,4,1. Thats an average of 37 bench pts for the knicks main guys and 38 for the raps. How is that better......let alone a moot point??? The knicks wins have come against Atlanta, Cleveland, Clippers, Phili and Houston. The raps have wins over portland, utah, houston, detroit and san Antonio, and now the Knicks. So Who's the better team?? The raps have beaten much better teams than the Knicks. My money is that they dont make the playoffs...and if they do its a quick exit as an 8th seed. I'll take the Raptors, and for that matter boston, washington, and the 76ers over the Knicks any day. Sunday might be a close game...but dont go saying that their obviously better...and make it sound like we're playing the Jordan era Bulls. The knicks ARE NOT that good...even when comparing them to a weak Eastern conferance.
What I tell every one. Raptors bench was good like usual. We didn't stop Nazr Muhammed, but we contained Marbury and Crawford, and like I said the make or break match up , Carter vs crawford, obviously Carter won that, and I think he won back half his fans.
We didn't "contain" Marbury. He still went off for 25 points so I wouldn't exactly call that "containing".
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting 02civic:</div><div class="quote_post">mrj18 - you make it sound like the knicks are handsdown better than the raps. Hell i dont think they're even on the same level, let alone obviously better!!?? The knicks are one of the most overrated teams in the league. They're stacked with has beens, wash ups and never were's. You've got player after player with max or close to max contract. They're the most inconsistent bunch in the league by far. Tim Thomas, Crawford, Penny, Nazr....and now there looking for E. Robinson and Glen Robinson....2 more inconsistent players that havent lived up to their contract. 5 of their first 8 players are of the "throw up shots, play no defence" mentality. My money is that they dont make the playoffs...and if they do its a quick exit as an 8th seed. I'll take the Raptors, and for that matter boston, washington, and the 76ers over the Knicks any day. Sunday might be a close game...but dont go saying that their obviously better...and make it sound like we're playing the Jordan era Bulls. The knicks ARE NOT that good...even when comparing them to a weak Eastern conferance.</div> The Raptors won that game but, that means nothing! How can you compare a bad performance to the whole season? You're about to lose your money 02civic! How can you say that they wont even make the playoffs? I'm going to assume this is your first year watching the NBA because the way your speaking is like a rookie NBA fan. The contracts have nothing to do with anything. The Knicks had a bad performance that's all. Can I say because the Raptors got killed by the Wizards they wont make the playoffs? What you said is simply rediculous! As you watch your first NBA season this year you will learn a lot of teams might start off bad or be inconsistant but, once they start to gel they become better.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting VinKanaddy:</div><div class="quote_post">We didn't "contain" Marbury. He still went off for 25 points so I wouldn't exactly call that "containing".</div> Yes, but compared to other times we played him, yes we did, he was scoring at unimportant times, and wasn't taking over when we were making runs to help the team cut them down, so that was like a weak 25 points, but he still got 25 and 8.
hahaha...dream on. I know more about basketball then you hope to. I've played it on levels you only wish you could. I've been on many teams, been to many camps including sharing the court with Nate Archibald and Rick Barry. So lets move on to your reply and show you where you're wrong. First off i never said that one game means a bad season...or one game makes a bad team. It take several games for a team to fit the "bad team" definition. I never even said they were bad...just that you, and too many other NYK fans make them sound like championship material and its ludacris. They're not a bad team..but they're not one of the elites...and they're not one of the top teams....they could finish 4th in the East...or they could finish 10th....their one of those teams. Why is it crazy to say they wont make the playoffs.....i can name you 8 teams and you'd have a hard time telling my why the Knicks are clear cut better than any or even some of them. 1)Detroit 2) Indiana 3) Miami 4) Orlando 5) Cleveland 6) Toronto 7) Phili 8) Boston. and hey if you want...throw in 9) Washington. Everything from and including Orlando down is debateable..and alot has to do with how they mesh and how injuries, hot/cold streaks go. But how are the Knicks any better on paper to 4-10. And let alone paper....how are they on the court...cause the knicks have always looked better than they played, ever since the end of the Ewing era. You might be able to justify *some* of them being worse...but not another level worse...and not all of them. Stop talking like the Knicks should never loose to the Raps. Be supportive of your team..but dont make them to be something their not. And <u>they are not</u>, and you can qoute me, "ARE NOT CLEAR CUT BETTER THAN TORONTO" Go ahead son, enlighten me
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting 02civic:</div><div class="quote_post">hahaha...dream on. I know more about basketball then you hope to. I've played it on levels you only wish you could. I've been on many teams, been to many camps including sharing the court with Nate Archibald and Rick Barry. So lets move on to your reply and show you where you're wrong. First off i never said that one game means a bad season...or one game makes a bad team. It take several games for a team to fit the "bad team" definition. I never even said they were bad...just that you, and too many other NYK fans make them sound like championship material and its ludacris. They're not a bad team..but they're not one of the elites...and they're not one of the top teams....they could finish 4th in the East...or they could finish 10th....their one of those teams. Why is it crazy to say they wont make the playoffs.....i can name you 8 teams and you'd have a hard time telling my why the Knicks are clear cut better than any or even some of them. 1)Detroit 2) Indiana 3) Miami 4) Orlando 5) Cleveland 6) Toronto 7) Phili 8) Boston. and hey if you want...throw in 9) Washington. Everything from and including Orlando down is debateable..and alot has to do with how they mesh and how injuries, hot/cold streaks go. But how are the Knicks any better on paper to 4-10. And let alone paper....how are they on the court...cause the knicks have always looked better than they played, ever since the end of the Ewing era. You might be able to justify *some* of them being worse...but not another level worse...and not all of them. Stop talking like the Knicks should never loose to the Raps. Be supportive of your team..but dont make them to be something their not. And <u>they are not</u>, and you can qoute me, "ARE NOT CLEAR CUT BETTER THAN TORONTO" Go ahead son, enlighten me</div> Preach, my brother!!! PREACH! lmao
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting 02civic:</div><div class="quote_post">hahaha...dream on. I know more about basketball then you hope to. I've played it on levels you only wish you could. I've been on many teams, been to many camps including sharing the court with Nate Archibald and Rick Barry. So lets move on to your reply and show you where you're wrong. First off i never said that one game means a bad season...or one game makes a bad team. It take several games for a team to fit the "bad team" definition. I never even said they were bad...just that you, and too many other NYK fans make them sound like championship material and its ludacris. They're not a bad team..but they're not one of the elites...and they're not one of the top teams....they could finish 4th in the East...or they could finish 10th....their one of those teams. Why is it crazy to say they wont make the playoffs.....i can name you 8 teams and you'd have a hard time telling my why the Knicks are clear cut better than any or even some of them. 1)Detroit 2) Indiana 3) Miami 4) Orlando 5) Cleveland 6) Toronto 7) Phili 8) Boston. and hey if you want...throw in 9) Boston and 10) Washington. Everything from and including Orlando down is debateable..and alot has to do with how they mesh and how injuries, hot/cold streaks go. But how are the Knicks any better on paper to 4-10. And let alone paper....how are they on the court...cause the knicks have always looked better than they played, ever since the end of the Ewing era. You might be able to justify *some* of them being worse...but not another level worse...and not all of them. Go ahead son, enlighten me</div> If you knew a lot about basketball than me then you would have never posted this. But, on to the point. If you can't make the playoffs in a weak division it's self explainitory that you're bad. Everyone from below 3 is very much beatable. Some of those teams aren't deep enough, some are just one man shows, others don't matchup well, and numerous other reasons. For you to even have considered Washington being in the Knicks league proves my point.
