<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Feb 23 2006, 05:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What the hell did that mean, in the bold? </div>...read it..read it slow if you have to....wow.hahahahahahe has scored the second most points in any NBA game in the history of the whole entire worldslowly now. slowly.**EDIT** (i wanted to expand on why i think kobe should get mvp)well i mean of course nash is the MVP for his team. he has improved numbers from his last season, sure. but the reason he won last year was because he changed the team's record from nothing to the top. this year he has held it there, and he is definately an MVP candidate..but kobe bryant..he is trying to do the impossible! and he has come close to it. 62 points in 3 quarters. 81 points in a game. it's not long until he stomps the 100 points in one game. not long my friends not long. he is THE BEST at his game in the league right now. why SHOULDN'T he get MVP? he's the best scorer since the unstoppable wilt chamberlain.. the best all around player since michael jordan.. he IS a great. he WILL be a legend. he has already left his print on the league and he still has enough gas in his tank to do something amazing. so amazing that they will compare the future greats to kobe. he will be that guy. he is really -THAT- good. and the MVP should go to him. no one else.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>it's not long until he stomps the 100 points in one game. not long my friends not long.</div>I'm willing to bet he won't.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>the best all around player since michael jordan</div>Shouldn't he average more rebs, ast, stls, blks then? I would say best around offensive player. But all around player. That's more like Andrei Kirilenko.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>he is trying to do the impossible! and he has come close to it. 62 points in 3 quarters. 81 points in a game. it's not long until he stomps the 100 points in one game. not long my friends not long.</div>Like I said before, points do not buy you the MVP, Kobe isn't going to get it based on what he scores. Also Kobe is not scoring 100 points or more in a game. When Wilt did that he was the tallest guy out there, there was no three point line (so you might as well give it to him), there was no shot clock (he could post up as long as he wanted), and I am pretty sure there wasn't a offensive 3 seconds. Kobe won't score over 100. Just because he scored 81 doesn't mean he will do it again. When Wilt scored 100, he never did it again.Also, I think Kobe is more worried about making the playoffs than the MVP. You can't give the MVP to a player who's team may not even make the playoffs.The MVP stands for "Most Valuable Player" there is a different award for scoring the most points. I would like to see Kobe's assists and rebounds go up before you can even talk about him getting the MVP, well in my opinion. I would also like to see his team do better before I put him in the running.
give it up you kobe <Censored> riders. he's not winning mvp cuz he can score. if he can actually lead his team to the conference finals then yea give to him but he's lookin at a nice first round exit in the playoffs so forget about it.
I'd like to add something about Nash, Nash will set up a player to get as high a % shot as possible, but he isnt going to make Ben Wallace into Larry Bird. Boris Diaw is a young player, and worked very hard over the offseason, he should get some credit for what he's doing. Im sure having Nash as a teammate helps, but he's the one making the shots.
Nash helps them out tremendously by finding them open looks. If their a sg in the NBA their expected to make an open jumper. It credit to them but more to Nash for setting them up. Trust me without Nash, the Suns would just be jacking up contested shots and have a bad team on both ends of he court. Nash is the guy that pieces together their offense and makes a top 20 offense into a top 5 offense.
It's going to be either Nash or Kobe. Nash has been spectacular, guiding his team to wins without one of the key guys on his team that was such a big part of last year's squad sucess. He and Marion have become a very dangerous duo. Nash has always been a great passer, but this year he's taken it to another level. He's definitely worth MVP honors it'll be interesting to see if he gets it.Kobe has been Kobe and some. He's having a career year, he's just been fun to watch. The way he takes over a game is incredible. All this talk of him "hogging" the ball is stupid. He does it to put the team in a better spot for the W. He is a great player when it comes to ALL things basketball. He has brought this Lakers team up from last year, and he's been playing great basketball while setting the example for the younger players on the team. If the Lakers end up with the sixth seed or higher, he's a lock for MVP.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DWade3 @ Feb 24 2006, 01:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If the Lakers end up with the sixth seed or higher, he's a lock for MVP.</div>that's pretty sad if you think that. how many mvp's have been below the 4th seed? he's not getting it unless his team goes somewhere. i don't think the committee is that stupid to pick a player just because he puts up numbers. he is having a career year and he isn't even a lock for the 8th seed yet. mvp's don't just put up good numbers, they win basketball games. wow he scored 81 points. so what? his team sucks, he's the only good player they have. he doesn't deserve mvp unless he gets to the conference finals which is virually impossible because the top 4 teams in the conference would rape the lakers so forget about the "rapist" winning the mvp.you're a d wade fan why aren't you endorsing him? his teams much better than kobe's and he's having his best season of his career.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nykfan4life @ Feb 24 2006, 01:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>that's pretty sad if you think that. how many mvp's have been below the 4th seed? he's not getting it unless his team goes somewhere. i don't think the committee is that stupid to pick a player just because he puts up numbers. he is having a career year and he isn't even a lock for the 8th seed yet. mvp's don't just put up good numbers, they win basketball games. wow he scored 81 points. so what? his team sucks, he's the only good player they have. he doesn't deserve mvp unless he gets to the conference finals which is virually impossible because the top 4 teams in the conference would rape the lakers so forget about the "rapist" winning the mvp.you're a d wade fan why aren't you endorsing him? his teams much better than kobe's and he's having his best season of his career.</div>Kobe is the only player that can play day in and day out. Lamar Scrotum has been playing like a scrub. If notice the word if they make it beyond the sixth seed I think he should win it. I don't like Kobe as a person, but on the court he is amazing.As for Wade, yes I am a fan. But I also don't put down great players like Kobe just because of that. Wade is having his best year but he has too much talent and too little success on the Heat for him to win MVP.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ArizonaFan @ Feb 23 2006, 11:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>8 rebounds per game for a 7+foot power forward is pretty average to me. But he has his moments. </div>It is when your not roaming around in the paint. Dirk plays the perimeter.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>that's pretty sad if you think that. how many mvp's have been below the 4th seed? he's not getting it unless his team goes somewhere</div>Moses Malone is the only one I can think of.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DWade3 @ Feb 24 2006, 02:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Kobe is the only player that can play day in and day out. Lamar Scrotum has been playing like a scrub. If notice the word if they make it beyond the sixth seed I think he should win it. I don't like Kobe as a person, but on the court he is amazing.As for Wade, yes I am a fan. But I also don't put down great players like Kobe just because of that. Wade is having his best year but he has too much talent and too little success on the Heat for him to win MVP.</div>beyond the 6th seed isn't good enough because they're still gonna lose in the first round unless they get the 4th which isn't happening because i think it's the spurs who have the 3rd best record in the league but still are the 4th seed. the three divisions <Censored> everything up. again, kobe would need to go beyond the 4th and then more to get mvp.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nykfan4life @ Feb 25 2006, 06:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>beyond the 6th seed isn't good enough because they're still gonna lose in the first round unless they get the 4th which isn't happening because i think it's the spurs who have the 3rd best record in the league but still are the 4th seed. the three divisions <Censored> everything up. again, kobe would need to go beyond the 4th and then more to get mvp.</div>The ideal playoff position for us would be 6th seed because we would meet the denver nuggets who we always beat. They have no answer kobe, Ruben patterson isn't going to solve that.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Melo061 @ Feb 24 2006, 07:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The ideal playoff position for us would be 6th seed because we would meet the denver nuggets who we always beat. They have no answer kobe, Ruben patterson isn't going to solve that.</div>remember ruben patterson called himself "the kobe stopper" haha.
On the Kobe 4 MVP topic, I recall TMac led his team to the .500 mark during the 04 season, averaging 32 points a game. They were the #8 seed, and TMac had an incredible year. He finished 4th in MVP voting. Although Kobe has had some great games, and is having a better season than TMac had then, I really don't see him getting MVP
I brought up the McGrady thing like you just did KMart, it's a solid counter to the Kobe 4 MVP debate.
If Tmac's team make the playoffs he's the MVP without a doubt. His team look more lost than the lakers without Kobe.It's the MVP, not the player with the best stats on a great team. Tmac is more valuable Dirk, nash and whoever you throw at him.
