<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AIRTIGHT:</div><div class="quote_post">I dont see where much of yall's adulation is based. Think with me for a min. What grown man goes into his profession immitating another man not related to him?-- not any profession but entertainment at that ( where your success in more than any profession is reliant of your ability to distinguish yourself and your indivual persona) ------>especially someone who is not that far removed chronologically? Its like Newton trying to become one of the greatest thinkers of all time by going down the timeline and re-inventing everything Da Vinci had--- except this is on a national stage for the world to see , and the man had just retired as Newton was arriving on the scene,(they even worked 4 yrs on the same stage) and even with the example he didnt do it nearly as good as Da Vinci did it.. and to top it off you got Newton over here claming his favorite and biggest influence was Michaelangelo. or Magic Johnson whomever you wanna use. ... of course i'm speaking totally hypothetically-- nobody wold ever really do somethin like that right</div> Wade emulate his style of player after Jordon more than Kobe. LeBron emulates his style of player after Magic and Jordan. Gilbert Arenas is a carbon copy of Allen Iverson. Tracy McGrady has some Jordan in him. Amare Stoudamire copys Shaq. Do you want me to continue? Other sports? It happens all the time. You form your game after what works. Kobe has some Magic, MJ, and his father mixed into his game. If you knew anything about Kobe, as well. You would know that he lived over in Italy for part of his life and his favorite player was actually Mike D'antoni, that's why he wore number 8.
Hmm, I didnt know D'antoni had such nice a fadaway--- maybe Kobe got it from someone else? You mentioned those other players and their counterparts, and none of them emulate the latter anywhere near the extent of Kobe- Jordan. And im not talking just about on court style of play and characterizations-- im talking emulating the man himself!- Sports reporters have been talkin about it since the guy came in the league. You dont hear Amare speaking in Shaq's monotone. You dont see Lebron wearing mid- socks and smiling all the time . You dont see Arenas with tatoos and headbands and shi shooting 3/4 extended fadaways - hell he plays more similarly to Larry Hughes or Penny. And Wade has played like this for the duration of his college/NBA career-- because its the only way he knows how to. It has a lot less to do with imitating Jordan than just going on the floor and playing ball.--- whereas Kobe is obvioulsy making calculated attempts and portraying the mans image to the letter. You're talking about being the 'next' or being the one to bring the leauge into a new era.--- you think Jordan became the 'next' because all he did was recite an NBA career of someone else verbatim? That Da'vinci or Einstein became the icons because of how perfectly they were able to impersonate the previous guy? Yall way off-- thats not how its done. The reason Jordan became the icon is because of how different and individually special he was. and yall dont realize that, or else I cant see how you could tolerate it, let alone admire it. This guy is not the 'next'. How you gone be the next when you stuck on reproducing the first? Better yet, how you gone be the 'next' when you can't even succeed at being you?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AIRTIGHT:</div><div class="quote_post">Hmm, I didnt know D'antoni had such nice a fadaway--- maybe Kobe got it from someone else?</div> OMGGG!!11 he shoot's fade away's, he must be trying to copy Jordan! OMMGGG!!!1 Bynum can dunk the ball hard, he MUST be trying to copy Shaq! <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AIRTIGHT:</div><div class="quote_post">Better yet, how you gone be the 'next' when you can't even succeed at being you?</div> w00t, he won 3 rings, he failed. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AIRTIGHT:</div><div class="quote_post">And Wade has played like this for the duration of his college/NBA career-- because its the only way he knows how to. It has a lot less to do with imitating Jordan than just going on the floor and playing ball.--- whereas Kobe is obvioulsy making calculated attempts and portraying the mans image to the letter. </div> So Kobe, sits at home and "calculate's" way's he can copy Jordan? <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AIRTIGHT:</div><div class="quote_post">You're talking about being the 'next' or being the one to bring the leauge into a new era.--- you think Jordan became the 'next' because all he did was recite an NBA career of someone else verbatim? That Da'vinci or Einstein became the icons because of how perfectly they were able to impersonate the previous guy? Yall way off-- thats not how its done. The reason Jordan became the icon is because of how different and individually special he was. and yall dont realize that, or else I cant see how you could tolerate it, let alone admire it. This guy is not the 'next'. How you gone be the next when you stuck on reproducing the first? Better yet, how you gone be the 'next' when you can't even succeed at being you?</div> Kobe is the face of the 2000's so far, and he will end up as the man of the 2000's. I don't know what you are talking about, but I do know you should check into a mental clinic for some help. You talk nonsense, it's so bad, that a decent reply isn't justified.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AIRTIGHT:</div><div class="quote_post">Hmm, I didnt know D'antoni had such nice a fadaway--- maybe Kobe got it from someone else? </div> Did I say Kobe plays like D'antoni? No. Read. I said that D'antoni was his favorite player. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">You mentioned those other players and their counterparts, and none of them emulate the latter anywhere near the extent of Kobe- Jordan. And im not talking just about on court style of play and characterizations-- im talking emulating the man himself!- Sports reporters have been talkin about it since the guy came in the league.</div> Dywane Wade is exactly what Michael Jordan was minus the defense. Wade is more of a Jordan copy than Kobe. Wade and Bryant both take elements of Kobe's game and put their own twist on it. There's nothing wrong with that. Who's your favorite player? LeBron? He takes a lot of elements from Magic Johnson, why aren't you on his back? Because he has a clean image? Grow up dude, you're whining about Kobe playing a style of ball like MJ is getting beyond pathetic. Ask 100 people, I guarantee you're the only person with a problem about the topic. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">You dont hear Amare speaking in Shaq's monotone. You dont see Lebron wearing mid- socks and smiling all the time . You dont see Arenas with tatoos and headbands and shi shooting 3/4 extended fadaways - hell he plays more similarly to Larry Hughes or Penny.</div> LMFAO Amare doens't speak like Shaq? Now you're getting retarded on us. First it was play like him, not it has to be speak like him? Maybe Amare's balls should drop, his voice will get deeper. No but I did see LeBron wearing the tights, after Kobe did. LeBron smiles a lot, as well. And Arenas? He has tattoos. If you catch a picture of him with his shirt up, he has a lion blended into his stomach. Arenas plays no where near the likes of Hughes or Penny, either. I've watched him since he came into the league. He is a carbon copy of Iverson. The pull up jumpers, the drives, that attitude. You're a moron kid, it's disgusting. Because a player doesn't LOOK like a person they play like, that disqualifies them from emulating their style. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">And Wade has played like this for the duration of his college/NBA career-- because its the only way he knows how to. It has a lot less to do with imitating Jordan than just going on the floor and playing ball.--- whereas Kobe is obvioulsy making calculated attempts and portraying the mans image to the letter. </div> What are you talking about. Ever since Kobe started getting some exposure he has brought MJ comparisons. Like Wade, Kobe's always played with the style. If it was Kobe's style before MJ's, you would be accusing MJ of playing with Kobe's style. Both Wade and Kobe came into the league as SG's, MJ played the SG. He played the perfect way a SG should, and Kobe and Wade did that in HS and Wade in college. Of course they'd bring it to the pros. They're not going to change their ways because a nobody like you disagrees. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">You're talking about being the 'next' or being the one to bring the leauge into a new era.--- you think Jordan became the 'next' because all he did was recite an NBA career of someone else verbatim? That Da'vinci or Einstein became the icons because of how perfectly they were able to impersonate the previous guy? Yall way off-- thats not how its done. The reason Jordan became the icon is because of how different and individually special he was. and yall dont realize that, or else I cant see how you could tolerate it, let alone admire it. This guy is not the 'next'. How you gone be the next when you stuck on reproducing the first? Better yet, how you gone be the 'next' when you can't even succeed at being you?</div> What the F does Da Vinci or Einstein have to do with this? What do they have to do with basketball? Kobe's been quoted NUMEROUS times that he doesn't want to be the next MJ. It's the media, fans, and haters like you that bring up the comparison. You hate because Kobe's the best in the league, you hate because he's on another level right now, you hate because he's just hitting his peak, you hate that he's overcame numerous adversity in his life, you hate everything about him. You hate Kobe Bryant because he's 100 times the man you'll be. He's 100 times as successful as you'll be. He's 100 times more hardworking than you. He thrives and you sit here on a message board trying to bring him down, but in all honestly, all you do is make Kobe better. It's the haters like you that he thrives off of. Kobe never claimed himself the next MJ, so let the hate go.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">On the pleasure of hating Kobe Bryant by Sam Anderson...Jordan was a master of pantomime. He built his empire largely on iconic celebratory gestures: the tongue-wag, the splay-legged fist pump, the impish "Even I marvel at my own divinity" shrug. Kobe's dramatic gestures are all either borrowed or embarrassing. After his game-winner over the Suns in Game 4, Kobe held his fist frozen in front of him exactly like MJ used to. But when he got clotheslined by Raja Bell in the next game, there was no script to work from: You could almost see him trying to remember if Come Fly With Me had any footage of Jordan getting horse-collared by Joe Dumars. Kobe finally improvised with a sassy hand-gesture shuffle. He wiped a pile of imaginary dirt off of his shoulder for a while, then added a schoolmarm finger waggle while making the least convincing tough-guy face I've ever seen. It was like a high-school production of West Side Story. </div>http://www.slate.com/id/2141287#ContinueArticle <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> Hmm, I didnt know D'antoni had such nice a fadaway--- maybe Kobe got it from someone else? Did I say Kobe plays like D'antoni? No. Read. Are you illiterate or something? I said that D'antoni was his favorite player. </div> I dunno what you were insinuating with the D'antoni plug-- but I did say Kobe played like Jordan. Remember. Do you have dislexic alzheimer's or something? <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> LMFAO Amare doens't speak like Shaq? Now you're getting retarded on us. First it was play like him, not it has to be speak like him? Maybe Amare's balls should drop, his voice will get deeper. Grow up or get out of this forum. </div> Hey you're the one who comopared Amare to Shaq. I dont see the hell why; or what that has to do with Kobe and Jordan.-- Your the one who needs to grow the hell up man. With the Arenas and Lebron and Wade and what not-- yea the reason people dont get on their case for emulating these guys is because --- they don't. Why are we having this discussion if there was nothing to it? -- Got you over here calling me names and shi.. you dont know me-- the hell you supposed to be? Why you cant accept that Kobe is a fake-ass Jordan and basically nothing else. The fact that you guys are over resorting to cussing and calling my out shows your insecurity in the subject, and how i've hit a nerve. How you gonna tell me that Wade emulates Jordan more than Kobe-- thats ridiculous. Why are you the only one who see's this? Lebron like Magic?-- how does Lebron play like Magic? or better yet imitate the mans personality? He's a sf/sg averaging 30pts 7ast 7reb, he's a slasher/scoring guard he's arguable the most athletic player in the leauge. Hardly the same situation we're talking about here --?? Yall are ridiculous to try to rationalize Kobe's obvious character theft of Jordan with " uh, everybody's doing it-- see Amare' and Arenas and them". The ironic thing is Kobe's doing a horrible job at it-- as he forgot the most important part of being 'the Jordan' is that there is noone else like you and you are like noone else. The objective was not to become the 1.most hated player in the league, 2. outcast as a loner and not respected by fellow players 3. an obvious farce lacking a personality of his own. Hey people didnt want to come in hating Kobe-- he was given the red carpet from the first day... but yall trying to shove him down people's throats gave us no choice <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> What are you talking about. Ever since Kobe started getting some exposure he has brought MJ comparisons. Like Wade, Kobe's always played with the style. If it was Kobe's style before MJ's, you would be accusing MJ of playing with Kobe's style. Both Wade and Kobe came into the league as SG's, MJ played the SG. He played the perfect way a SG should, and Kobe and Wade did that in HS and Wade in college. Of course they'd bring it to the pros. They're not going to change their ways because a nobody like you disagrees. ....Kobe's been quoted NUMEROUS times that he doesn't want to be the next MJ. It's the media, fans, and haters like you that bring up the comparison. You hate because Kobe's the best in the league, you hate because he's on another level right now, you hate because he's just hitting his peak, you hate that he's overcame numerous adversity in his life, you hate everything about him. You hate Kobe Bryant because he's 100 times the man you'll be. He's 100 times as successful as you'll be. He's 100 times more hardworking than you. He thrives and you sit here on a message board trying to bring him down, but in all honestly, all you do is make Kobe better. It's the haters like you that he thrives off of. Kobe never claimed himself the next MJ, so let the hate go.</div> Wow this dude's a clown PS: Lebron wore the tights after Kobe :-| but Kobe didnt wear em before Jordan's last stint in 02' :-(
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AIRTIGHT:</div><div class="quote_post">Why you cant accept that Kobe is a fake-ass Jordan and basically nothing else</div> I dont know what your requirements are, but I'd be a fake ass Jordan if I had this resume. I dont see nothing wrong with that. You must have some high standards. Kobe is doing a great job being a fake ass Jordan. How many other people do you know can be this wack and only get this many awards and achievements in the NBA? Pretty wack resume for a NOBODY. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Awards and achievements Career highlights <ul> [*]3-time NBA Champion: 2000, 2001, 2002 [*]8-time NBA All-Star: 1998, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006[/list]<ul> [*]Has started in each of his appearances [*]8 consecutive appearances. (No All-Star game in 1999 due to league-wide lock-out)[/list]<ul> [*]NBA All-Star Game MVP: 2002 [*]NBA Scoring Champion: 2006 (35.4) [*]8-time All-NBA:[/list]<ul> [*]First Team: 2002, 2003, 2004, 2006 [*]Second Team: 2000, 2001 [*]Third Team: 1999, 2005[/list]<ul> [*]6-time All-NBA Defensive:[/list]<ul> [*]First Team: 2000, 2003, 2004, 2006 [*]Second Team: 2001, 2002[/list]<ul> [*]2-time NBA regular-season leader, points: 2003 (2,461), 2006 (2,832) [*]2-time NBA regular-season leader, field goals made: 2003 (868), 2006 (978) [*]NBA regular-season leader, field goals attempted: 2006 (2,173) [*]NBA regular-season leader, free throws made: 2006 (696) [*]NBA All-Rookie Second Team: 1997 [*]NBA All-Star Slam Dunk Champion: 1997 [*]2nd highest single-game point total in NBA history: 81, set on January 22, 2006 vs. the Toronto Raptors. (The record is 100 points set by Wilt Chamberlain on March 2, 1962.) [*]7th highest single-season point total in NBA history: 2,832, 2005-06 (Top 6 held by Wilt Chamberlain and Michael Jordan) [*]9th highest single-season scoring average in NBA history: 35.4, 2005-06 (Top 8 held by Wilt Chamberlain, Elgin Baylor, Michael Jordan, and Rick Barry) [*]Career triple-doubles (as of 2006): 14 [17] [*]Career statistics (as of 2006): 23.9 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 4.5 apg, 0.61 bpg, 1.50 spg, .451 FG%, .336 3FG%, .834 FT% [18] [*]Career playoff statistics (as of 2006): 22.9 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 4.5 apg, 0.73 bpg, 1.34 spg, .438 FG%, .329 3FG%, .791 FT% [19][/list] NBA milestones <ul> [*]Youngest player in NBA history to reach:[/list]<ul> [*]10,000 points (24 years, 193 days), set March 5, 2003 vs. the Indiana Pacers. [*]14,000 points (26 years, 240 days), set April 20, 2005 vs. the Portland Trail Blazers. [*]15,000 points (27 years, 136 days), set January 6, 2006 vs. the Philadelphia 76ers. [*]16,000 points (27 years, 192 days), set March 3, 2006 vs. the Golden State Warriors.[/list]<ul> [*]Youngest player to start an NBA game (18 years, 158 days), making his first start for the Los Angeles Lakers on January 28, 1997. [*]Youngest player to start an NBA All-Star Game (19 years, 175 days), making his debut at the 48th annual All-Star Game at Madison Square Garden on February 8, 1998. [*]Youngest NBA All-Star Slam Dunk champion (18 years, 175 days), after winning the contest at the 1997 NBA All-Star Weekend. [*]Became the first player ever to outscore the opposing team through three quarters since the advent of the 24-second shot clock after scoring 62 points in three quarters of play on December 20, 2005 vs. the Dallas Mavericks.[/list] NBA records (8) <ul> [*]Most three-point field goals made, one game: 12 (January 7, 2003 vs. Seattle SuperSonics; first player to reach this plateau; tied with Donyell Marshall). [20] [*]Most three-point field goals made, one half: 8 (March 28, 2003 vs. Washington Wizards; tied with 5 players). [21] [*]Most consecutive three-point field goals made, one game: 9 (January 7, 2003 vs. Seattle SuperSonics; first player to reach this plateau; tied with Latrell Sprewell and Ben Gordon). [22] [*]Most free throws made, one quarter: 14 (3rd quarter, December 20, 2005 vs. Dallas Mavericks; tied with 5 players). [23] [24] [*]Most free throws attempted, one quarter: 16 (3rd quarter, December 20, 2005 vs. Dallas Mavericks; tied with 6 players). [25] [26] [*]Most All-Star Game three-point field goals made, all-time: 11 (1997–present; tied with Tracy McGrady, Ray Allen, and Jason Kidd). [27] [*]Holds shot-clock era records for:[/list]<ul> [*]Greatest percentage of own team's point total (66.4% of the Lakers' 122 points) [*]Greatest percentage of both teams' combined point total (35.8% of the Lakers' and Raptors' 226 points) [*](both set on January 22, 2006 vs. the Toronto Raptors).[/list] Lakers franchise records (30) <ul> [*]Points[/list]<ul> [*]Season: 2,832 (2005-06; 7th highest NBA single season scoring output of all-time) [*]Game: 81 (January 22, 2006 vs. Toronto Raptors) [28] [*]Half: 55 (2nd half, January 22, 2006 vs. Toronto Raptors). [29] [*]Quarter: 30 (3rd quarter, December 20, 2005 vs. Dallas Mavericks) [30] [*]Overtime, playoffs: 12 (May 4, 2006 vs. Phoenix Suns) [31] [*]Scoring average, month: 43.4 (January 2006) [*]Games scoring 40 points or more, season: 27 (2005-06) [32] [*]Consecutive games of 40 points or more: 9 (February 6–February 23, 2003) [33] [*]Consecutive games of 20 points or more, season: 62 (December 9, 2005–April 19, 2006)[/list]<ul> [*]Field goals made[/list]<ul> [*]Half: 18 (2nd half, January 22, 2006 vs. Toronto Raptors). [34] [*]Quarter: 11 (February 2, 1999 vs. Seattle SuperSonics). [35][/list]<ul> [*]Field goals attempted[/list]<ul> [*]Half: 28 (tied with Elgin Baylor; 2nd half, January 22, 2006 vs. Toronto Raptors). [36][/list]<ul> [*]Free throws made[/list]<ul> [*]Game: 23 (twice, most recently on January 31, 2006 vs. New York Knicks). [37] [*]Half: 16 (January 30, 2001 vs. Cleveland Cavaliers) [38] [*]Quarter: 14 (3rd quarter, December 20, 2005 vs. Dallas Mavericks) [39] [*]Quarter, playoffs: 11 (tied with 3 players; May 8, 1997 vs. Utah Jazz). [40] [*]Consecutive: 62 (January 11–22, 2006). [41][/list]<ul> [*]Free throws attempted[/list]<ul> [*]Quarter: 16 (3rd quarter, December 20, 2005 vs. Dallas Mavericks). [42][/list]<ul> [*]Three-point field goals made[/list]<ul> [*]All-time: 799 (1996–present) [43] [*]Game: 12 (January 7, 2003 vs. Seattle SuperSonics). [44] [*]Half: 8 (1st half, March 28, 2003 vs. Washington Wizards). [45] [*]Quarter: 6 (2nd quarter, January 7, 2003 vs. Seattle SuperSonics). [46] [*]Without a miss, game: 7 (January 6, 2006 vs. Philadelphia 76ers). [47] [*]Consecutive: 9 (January 7, 2003 vs. Seattle SuperSonics). [48][/list]<ul> [*]Three-point field goals attempted[/list]<ul> [*]All-time: 2,379 (1996–present) [49] [*]All-time, playoffs: 410 (1996–present) [50] [*]Season: 518 (2005-06) [51] [*]Game: 18 (January 7, 2003 vs. Seattle SuperSonics). [52][/list]<ul> [*]Steals[/list]<ul> [*]Half: 6 (tied with 3 players; February 13, 2006 vs. Utah Jazz). [53] [*]Quarter, playoffs: 3 (tied with 6 players; May 17, 1999 vs. San Antonio Spurs). [54][/list] Personal records <ul> [*]Second-most points scored in a regular season game in NBA history: 81 (January 22, 2006). [*]One of only two players in NBA history to score 80 points in a single game (the other is Wilt Chamberlain). [*]One of only two players in NBA history to score 35-plus points per game for 13 consecutive games (the other is Wilt Chamberlain). [*]One of only three players in NBA history to score 40-plus points per game for 9 consecutive games (the others are Wilt Chamberlain and Michael Jordan). [*]One of only three players in NBA history to score 45-plus points per game for 4 consecutive games (the others are Elgin Baylor and Wilt Chamberlain), and the first to accomplish it since Chamberlain, who did it in November of 1964. [*]One of only three players in NBA history to average 40-plus points per game for an entire month at least once (the others are Wilt Chamberlain and Elgin Baylor) [*]One of only two players in NBA history to average 40-plus points per game for an entire month on three separate occasions (40.6 ppg in February 2003, 43.4 ppg in January 2006 , 40.1 in April 2006) (the other is Wilt Chamberlain). [*]Only player in NBA history with at least 2,800 points and 180 three-point field goals made in one season.[/list] Other awards and achievements <ul> [*]1996 Naismith High School Player of the Year [1] [*]1996 Gatorade Circle of Champions High School Player of the Year [1] [*]1996 McDonald's High School All-American [1] [*]1996 USA Today All-USA First Team [1] [*]1995 Adidas ABCD Camp Senior MVP [1] [*]Named to the USA Today All-Time All-USA First Team in 2003. [1] [*]USA Today and Parade Magazine's 1996 National High School Player of the Year with a seasonal average of 30.8 points, 12.0 rebounds, 6.5 assists, 4.0 steals and 3.9 blocks per game. [2] [*]Led Lower Merion High School to a 31-3 record, including 27 straight wins, and the PIAA Class AAAA state title as a senior (1996).[2] [*]The all-time leading scorer in Southeastern Pennsylvania school history with 2,883 points. [2][/list]</div>
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">He is a carbon copy of Iverson. The pull up jumpers, the drives, that attitude. </div> Oh ok man, im starting to finally see some of your logic now.. anyone who ever does pull up jumpers, and drives to the basket—oh, and has 'that' attitude(cant forget that part) is a “carbon copy” of Iverson. Wow, that’s crazy I never knew that!. So all the times I thought I saw a guy doing a pull up jumper or drive before Iverson, was just a premoniton of things to come with AI. I guess one of the great questions of our time would be how did the players ever execute pull up jumpers and drive before Iverson?-- I guess an answer we'll never know.... Black Mamba, an absolute genius. man,- where would we be without you?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AIRTIGHT:</div><div class="quote_post">Oh ok man, im starting to finally see some of your logic now.. anyone who ever does pull up jumpers, and drives to the basket?oh, and has 'that' attitude(cant forget that part) is a ?carbon copy? of Iverson. Wow, that?s crazy I never knew that!. So all the times I thought I saw a guy doing a pull up jumper or drive before Iverson, was just a premoniton of things to come with AI. I guess one of the great questions of our time would be how did the players ever execute pull up jumpers and drive before Iverson?-- I guess an answer we'll never know.... Black Mamba, an absolute genius. man,- where would we be without you?</div> You're contradicting your logic. Just because Kobe has a sweet fade away, is clutch, has range on his shot (something Jordan didn't), wins, is becoming a leader, is the best player in the league he's just like Jordan. Which one is it? By your logic, Arenas should be the same as Iverson if Kobe is the same as MJ. Where would you guys be without me? The ladies would be missin an incredible lover, the Lakers would be missin a huge fan, and you would be missin a lot of knowledge.
Wow Shape! Fantastic article! Every bit of it was 100% true. I'm not sure if anyone is ever gonna be considered greater than Micheal and that's a shame. He was the first. That doesnt mean he will always be the best. Kobe Bryant did things this year that no one had ever seen done on a basketball court, not even by Mike. With that being said, I've realized that nothing he does will ever be good enough for many. Thats just fine though, cause as the hate grows for Kobe every year, my love doubles.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">You're contradicting your logic. Just because Kobe has a sweet fade away, is clutch, has range on his shot (something Jordan didn't), wins, is becoming a leader, is the best player in the league he's just like Jordan. Which one is it? By your logic, Arenas should be the same as Iverson if Kobe is the same as MJ. </div>Damn. I clearly said, "So all the times I thought I saw a guy doing a pull up jumper or drive <u>before</u> Iverson, was just a premoniton of things to come with AI." Meaning that Iverson didnt create, nor popularize those moves-- obviously the same cant be said about the 'Jordan' fadeaway. Yes the 'Jordan' fadeaway. Jordan's shot, and the moves used to set it up were unique to him when he began using them; now if you're gonna tell me that Kobe got that move from Mike D'antoni or his dad or whatever kinda nonsense your probably gonna come back with then we can all see that this is a waste of everybody's time
AIRTIGHT, your logic makes no sense with your constant contradictions. I'm still laughning at the fact you think Kobe sits at home and plans what he can do in order to be more like Jordan. This is the reply your post deserves: "OMMMGGGGGZZZZ Peja can shoot 3'sss and is white!!!11 He MUST be trying 2 be Larry Birddd!!!" There is NO point in replying seriously, because it's a waste of time.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Laker_fan:</div><div class="quote_post">AIRTIGHT, your logic makes no sense with your constant contradictions. I'm still laughning at the fact you think Kobe sits at home and plans what he can do in order to be more like Jordan. This is the reply your post deserves: "OMMMGGGGGZZZZ Peja can shoot 3'sss and is white!!!11 He MUST be trying 2 be Larry Birddd!!!" There is NO point in replying seriously, because it's a waste of time.</div> I've caught on to this just recently. I cant believe I kept on posting arguements with this guy. Im done with that. On to bigger and better things like our Laker offseason moves!
kobe is a great player nice article! IMO, kobe is a great player. i'm not gonna say better than jordan, cause we really can't tell. but he's good, IMO the best the league has to offer. people may say otherwise, but just watching him play would (or should) silence the critics. jordan is great, THE greatest. he revolutionized the sport. when we talk of jordan, we don't compare him to anybody. like, "he dunks like mike" or "he shoots like mike". we don't, because he was the first. now if jordan didn't do all those things to change the sport and inspire the kobe generation to play basketball like him, we wouldn't even be talking about this. but, it's a given that people will somehow play like jordan. we all grew up watching and admiring him. we all tried to dunk and shoot jumpers like him. i'm sure kobe did too. and this shouldn't be taken against him. jordan looked up to dr. j, didn't he? now when did people stop comparing those two...
When <font color=""Red"">Jordan</font> destroyed him. This is a nice archive, thought id repost since I was up workin anyway. Dr J was the man in the League for a while- he was the Icon... but he was NEVER the end all of basketball. Damn near anybody you can think of from his time out-performed him in at least one way. He wasnt close to the best scorer, or creator, or perimeter defender; definetly not the best winner. He was near to nothing Jordan was. And neither is Kobe. -- let alone everything he was. Pigpen, you dont think that it's possible to be a good swingman without resembling Jordan? Trench how does my logic contradict itself? Can you not recognize the difference in the specialized fadaway Jordan pulled and the moves and mannerisms that go along with it against 'a white man's 3 pt shot'? Its been a month, but are you and your Laker fans still wallowing in your ignorance to a degree that you still would argue Kobe adopted the 'specialized' or Jordan fadaway out of the NBA's lost and found-- that nobody had ever claimed it; that basically Kobe concieved that style all on his own? If that's your point, then ok I guess i'll stay out of the Laker forum on here when it comes to threads attempting to debate a topic in a rational logic based manner. The insecurity in Laker fans and there failing superstar has got to be a suffocating atmosphere.
