Alright, maybe someone else can answer the question. What does it matter if you score 2 points with 2 seconds left on the clock versus 14 seconds left on the clock? Its not like if you score with 14 seconds left, your team gets the ball back to try to score again. Possessions alternate. Can anybody clarify?
I don't agree with this view because Kobe was an elite player long before LeBron & Wade came into the league. Prior to comparing Kobe to those two players you had him being compared to Iverson, Vince Carter, McGrady and Pierce. Not only has Kobe bypassed those players he's continued being an elite player with the likes of LeBron & Wade.
Because maybe it correlates with shot clock usage? When Kobe uses more shot clock, that correlates with him using more time at the end of the shot clock. I'm wondering, why are you always on me about basic stuff? Like really, Bron dribbles the ball down more than others. Put the stat book away for once, it is not that hard to notice.
No doubt brah. I was just tired of this discussion, it was quite long before. I thought we had a bad history together concerning this, and that it might get heated. I should keep it deleted really since it is an annoying tangent, but whatever.
Kobe's been an elite player for a long time, yes. But unlike Jordan, he was not a clear #1 player over that span. You could certainly make the case that he's the greatest guard/wing of the last 10 years. But he didn't separate himself to the extent Jordan did.
I didn't know you had to clearly prove you're better than Clyde Drexler in the 90's when he won all those titles.
The point I was making wasn't that Jordan had a better PER than Kobe. You selected Kobe's best statistical season, in his prime, and one of Jordan's lesser statistical seasons, his third year, for the comparison. Just thought I'd point that out to people. I fixed the TS%. Thanks for the correction. And I think if want to give credit to Kobe for playing 1 more minute per game, its only fair to penalize him for missing two games with a suspension (which may have cost the Lakers 2 wins, and a much more favorable 1st-round matchup with HCA as well). That seems like kind of a big deal, if what we care about is contributions towards winning. Just my opinion.
You're not welcome, next time don't get all over me again. Talking with you about this is extremely tiresome but if Shape and the others really want to see some aspects of this debate, then I understand. Kobe had a "comparable" season, not everyone finds steals and blocks useful. Maybe you do, that's nice, but I don't want to be dragged down into some long discussion again.
I assume you mean LeBron instead of Kobe. Again, I'll ask. Why do you think that matters? This is basic stuff, and its a simple question. Maybe you, or someone else, can supply a simple answer.
Why wouldn't it matter? No actually, I did mean Kobe. Check out his shot clock usage when he gets more aggressive.
"Kobe had 27+ PER against the Rockets, 30 Per against the Nuggets and shut down Melo after he torched Ariza Game 1, and 27.5 PER against the Magic while using less time per posession." "Kobe uses more shot clock, and that correlates with him using more time at the end of the shot clock." Am I the only one confused by this?
Lol dude, slow down. I'm surprised I have to explain it to you regardless. "When" Kobe uses more shot clock... As in, when Kobe hogs like Bron his shot clock usage is affected. There is a theme here.
Which one ... the guy who uses more time at the end of the shot clock, or the guy who dribbles the ball down more than others? Seriously, am I the only one who doesn't get this?
How do you not see the correlation of shot clock usage? I don't know another superstar taking that many shots at the end of the shot clock. But just look at him play, a bunch of spot-up shooters waiting for the ball. Not surprising.
