<div class="quote_poster">Quoting notMuchgame:</div><div class="quote_post">wtf was wit Kobe's statement?? He practically admitted guilt ...wtf??? is this a sign of a settlement? EDIT: If u guys didn't hear it, he released a statement apologizing to the victim and saying something to the effect of "I sincerley felt that our encounter was concensual, but now I realize it wasn't " or something to that effect ... </div> I was reading the article and read to the part where he was apologizing to her and her family. I had to go somewhere, so I didn't get to read that part about him realizing that it wasn't consensual. Bottom line the man is free. Thank goodness.
warning: long accusatory rant ahead.... in retrospect...... my comments have been removed because this is basicly the same thing as democrats vs republicans... they both see life from very different vantage points and you will never be able to change their views no matter what you say.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> in retrospect...... my comments have been removed because this is basicly the same thing as democrats vs republicans... they both see life from very different vantage points and you will never be able to change their views no matter what you say. </div> ^ You seemed to be making biased statements, that's why. Everyone one else in the thread was happy about Kobe being freed and you and one or two other posters are coming in and questioning that he "raped" her by releasing that statement. Basically, you're twisting the story here. I believe it was a negotiated deal, he definetly did not write that, the lawyers were all over that as that article said. Read all of Jesseca328, Zhone's or notMuchgame's posts, they seem to know whats going on more then most people... Yes, you are entitled to your own opinion but when you come to a thread about Kobe being free and start saying "he raped her based on that letter" (I'm paraphrasing), you're going to catch some heat.
yes, it is confirmed, Kobe HAS BEEN CLEARED OF ALL CHARGES, i read it on my newspaper this morning. props to his defence team. now he can get back to bball and the lakers. apparently his accuser didnt want to testify in court...
I'm glad that this Whole Kobe Case is over with. In my opinon,i've always thought that this was consentiual on both ends.and for some reason i've always felt like the lady's story was somewhat fishy. I Have believed that Kobe didn't rape the girl,that it was a fling he had with her,and now that it's all over with,he can now finally focus on the Lakers and being a family man now.he paid the price,so now lets see if things can get back to normal.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting spawn:</div><div class="quote_post">Yes, you are entitled to your own opinion but when you come to a thread about Kobe being free and start saying "he raped her based on that letter" (I'm paraphrasing), you're going to catch some heat.</div> Based on the letter, Kobe is admitting that the encounter was not consensual. I admit jumping the gun and taking that to mean an admission of committing rape. Though that's still a possible interpretation, its not the only one. It might be an acknowledgement that in her mind she was against what was going on, but due to some insecurity wouldn't express that. Of course, its also possible that Kobe still thinks its all a fraud, and he just agreed to put out that statement to get charges dropped.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting spawn:</div><div class="quote_post">^ You seemed to be making biased statements, that's why. Everyone one else in the thread was happy about Kobe being freed and you and one or two other posters are coming in and questioning that he "raped" her by releasing that statement. Basically, you're twisting the story here. I believe it was a negotiated deal, he definetly did not write that, the lawyers were all over that as that article said. Read all of Jesseca328, Zhone's or notMuchgame's posts, they seem to know whats going on more then most people... Yes, you are entitled to your own opinion but when you come to a thread about Kobe being free and start saying "he raped her based on that letter" (I'm paraphrasing), you're going to catch some heat.</div> this is what im talking about. I take something that he puts his name to publicly, based directly on what he says with no editing at all...yet im the one thats twisting his words.... perhaps, in part, it comes from reading things in a different light and having a different perspective in life Perhaps my last post was misunderstood.. Im not angry about Bryant..ultimatly I could care less especially because this chick is now in it for the money & I dont dig that and have said so previously if you care to check. The anger was coming from the fact that I make a statement and it cant possibly be for any reason other than I am a Kings fan & a laker is involved... it just pisses me off that people would be so narrow minded like that. look... I have now, nor have I ever had any ill will towards Bryant. That he is on a team that in the same division as my team is just fate or luck or whatever you want to call it. but dont call me biased and dont say that the only reason I wanted Bryant to loose is so the kings would have a better chance... thats really ****'d up.
[quote name='durvasaBased on the letter, Kobe is admitting that the encounter was not consensual. I admit jumping the gun and taking that to mean an admission of committing rape. Though that's still a possible interpretation, its not the only one. [/QUOTE'] I will repeat myself where those in the letter where he says"I raped Kate Faber" <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">It might be an acknowledgement that in her mind she was against what was going on, but due to some insecurity wouldn't express that. Of course, its also possible that Kobe still thinks its all a fraud, and he just agreed to put out that statement to get charges dropped.</div> Your making progress.
I wasn't very surprised when I heard this. I think he is only guilty of something 1 in every 3 men do, and that's cheating on there wife or significant other, and he already apologized with a 3 million dollar ring. And it was a good decision by dismissing the case.
I find it hilarious that everyone thinks Kobe is off the hook just because the State of Colorado dismissed the case against him. In reality, this case is just getting started and it will be 10x worse in civil court then it would have been in criminal. Lets remember that the State of Colorado dropped this case not because they didn't have enough evidence but because that without the victim testifying, they will have a one in a million chance of proving that Kobe did commit rape. Unless there is a settlement, expect this case to get very ugly.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Hunter:</div><div class="quote_post">I find it hilarious that everyone thinks Kobe is off the hook just because the State of Colorado dismissed the case against him. In reality, this case is just getting started and it will be 10x worse in civil court then it would have been in criminal. </div> Well, I think most basketball fans are happy because Kobe will be playing Basketball ... I'm not concerned about the civil trial, as I see that as a formality. Yes, kobe's image may be ripped even more, yes he may lose a lot of money, but all I'm concerned about as a hoops fan is that he's gonna ball for the Lakers ...
ive never liked kobe before all this and still dont like him but im happy all this stuff is over cuz im sick of hearing it and kobe can play basketball now.
why is it that most AI fans hate Kobe? <font color="Blue">Please stay on topic. Thanks - Hunter</font>
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> I find it hilarious that everyone thinks Kobe is off the hook just because the State of Colorado dismissed the case against him. In reality, this case is just getting started and it will be 10x worse in civil court then it would have been in criminal. Lets remember that the State of Colorado dropped this case not because they didn't have enough evidence but because that without the victim testifying, they will have a one in a million chance of proving that Kobe did commit rape. Unless there is a settlement, expect this case to get very ugly. </div> Well, Hunter, with the criminal case, there was a chance he could have lost his freedom. With the civil case, he only has a chance of losing his money. But I don't think he'll owe her to the point where he'll go bankrupt so there should be no worries there. Bottomline: He's going to be playing basketball for his team next year. The civil case, he can handle, him losing some money will not effect the Lakers franchise. Whereas, him not playing at all, would have. I saw on a show (Celebrity Justice or something) they are trying to reach a settlement for the Civil case as well.
^ To add on to your point spawn, what's Kobe sweating at this moment? His newfound freedom or this civil suit in which he might consider giving the accuser money if he does take that route? Believe me, it's the second option, and he's not sweating an ounce right now.
Guys I realize your point and I completely agree with you that it is a great day for the Lakers organization, Kobe, and basketball in general. I just said what I did because everyone thinks it will be all "hunky dorey" from here on out when it won't be. Yes, Kobe will be playing basketball and I think that is fantastic however Kobe still has a lot of stress to go through with this civil suit.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Hunter:</div><div class="quote_post">Yes, Kobe will be playing basketball and I think that is fantastic however Kobe still has a lot of stress to go through with this civil suit.</div> I haven't been following this court stuff too often, belive me it was stressful enough hearing the latest events day after day, and the Laker haters shoving it in my face all the time, but in this civil suit...I understand the accuser's name will be used, but won't the explicit information appear on the suit as well? If I'm wrong, please correct me.
Yay Kobe is free! Just as I suspected! He's innocent! Yes they banged but it was all good! Now let's move on!
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting authentiq:</div><div class="quote_post">why is it that most AI fans hate Kobe? </div> People from Philadelphia don't like Kobe. He gets booed regularly at 76er games.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Hunter:</div><div class="quote_post">I just said what I did because everyone thinks it will be all "hunky dorey" from here on out when it won't be.</div> Why can't it be? Do you really think that Kate and KB really want to go to civil case. Like we already discuss both their life?s will be an open book. No Rape Shield to protect her and the same goes for him. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Yes, Kobe will be playing basketball and I think that is fantastic however Kobe still has a lot of stress to go through with this civil suit.</div> Civil case could be on hold of years if KB wanted to. Civil cases aren't like criminal cases were trial has to start between 2 or less years.
