KP Just Said Oden Out 7-10 Days

The clique is very exclusive. To be in it you must post on the BBF.

Did I already mention that it is very exclusive?

 

I'm apart of a clique. It includes all the white non-religious males on this board, between the ages 25-35, who are me.

 

So, anybody can speculate that Oden *doesn't* need surgery, but only someone with an MD can speculate that he *does*?

I may not know medicine, but I do have a grasp of simple math. Scope the knee: player misses 4-6 weeks. Scope the knee after stalling and stonewalling for a month: player misses 8-10 weeks.

Do I know for a FACT that he will need the knee scoped? No. OTOH, every day that passes without the knee getting better increases the odds that he will.

 

In my 'expert' opinion Greg should just amputate right above the kneecap. Problem solved.

 

When considering surgery, it is better to err on the side of caution than to start cutting when it may not be necessary. Besides, it's not speculation that he won't have surgery, it is the decision of Oden, the team and his doctors - you know the guys with actual medical degrees who have examined him and seen his MRI results.

There is an error in your simple math. You assume he could have had surgery immediately. That's not the case. Even if they would have determined he needed surgery, they wouldn't have performed it until the swelling went down. You don't go cutting into someone's knee when the soft tissue is abnormally swollen. So, add at least a week (possibly more) to you "simple math".

Now, try this one - rush to surgery when it isn't needed: one week (at least) for sweeling to subside, 4 - 6 weeks for recovery, player misses 5 - 7 weeks and risks infection and other post surgical complications. Wait for swelling to go down and pain to subside player misses 4 weeks.

Or, it could also increase the odds that the bone chip will disolve and be absorbed. The point is we don't know. The doctors that have examined him have chosen this course of treatment over surgery. Since they are trained to make these decisions, and have actually examined him, I'm inclined to agree with their opinion over anonymous, non-medical personel that have never even met Greg Oden, but are recommending he have surgery immediately on an internet forum. It's not as much fun as playing internet doctor, but it seems the more sensible approach to the issue.

BNM

 

Do you think he would get his shoes at 1/2 price?

 

It isn't the end of the world. Joel is better than Oden right now anyway. It does certainly hurt our depth though.

 

^psssh, whatever doctor

 

Rizz, what's the word on Bynum? When is he due back?

 

Fuck if I know. The latest is that he is walking on it with no pain, no swelling, is riding a stationary bike and doing range of movement exercises. It seems there is a real positive mentality about this injury within the organization about there is no doubt he's coming back this year. I've gotten a much better vibe than last year's injury.

BOTH times Bynum was injured it was when he was playing the best ball of his career...what a kick in the nuts

 

Clearly the Lakers are doing it all wrong. They should train him to play worse.

 

Personally I think they should have scoped Oden regardless of what BNM says. If there's a loose fragment in there I say get it the fuck out! Doctors aren't that smart that they cannot be second guessed.

 

Fuck scoping it! To save his season he requires a Medieval bloodletting!

--(although I'm not a physician, the Blazers should follow my diagnosis because I post in an anonymous internet forum)

 

Are these the same doctors who felt he could play the all star weekend if he had to and put his status as day to day?

Of course they are going to say surgery isn't required . . . I just hope they have good malpractice insurance.

 

Boy that sounds sweet! I sure wish one existed!

 

They're "smart" enough that their word means a few thousand times more than a fan on the Internet with no medical training.

If Oden wanted a second opinion from another practicing doctor, that would be perfectly reasonable.

 

Bring out the leeches! Suck the poison right out.

 

This is about doctors opinions . . . why do you have to bring lawyers into the conversation?

 

No, they are not. Oden was injured the night before the Rookie-Sophomore Challenge game and went straight from Oakland to Phoenix. The doctors in Portland did not see him until after he arrived back in Portland.

Unlike the wannabe "doctors" on this forum, most real doctors will not provide a diagnosis and recommended treatment until after they actually examine the patient.

BNM

 

That's what second opinions are for - from licensed physicians. Second opinions from posters on this forum who have neither medical training, nor first hand knowledge of Oden's injury are worth exactly what you paid for them.

BNM