Krstic Has Set Midnight Deadline for Sign-and-Trade

yeah a Harris-LeBron-Smith trio would be great in a couple years. The defense would be great, and the team could score a lot too.

 

I just hope the Nets get something in return for him. Kristic is a good player to have just taking away for nothing.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Froz-T @ Jul 28 2008, 12:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I just hope the Nets get something in return for him. Kristic is a good player to have just taking away for nothing.</div>

Krstic was quite possibly the worst player in the league last year.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Jul 28 2008, 12:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Let me make clear that this is just my uninformed opinion.

Let's go under the assumption that there was no randomness associated with the Nets' moves so far. that they had a list of players that they wanted to purge from the roster, and either had a list of particular targets to acquire, or a list of attributes to acquire, which have been met by the players that they've obtained so far.

Josh Smith is a great player. No doubt. I guess he's mostly a PF and could also play SF, is that correct?

The fundamental question is how well he'd fit with the current makeup of the roster, with is clearly SG, SF, and PF-heavy. I mean, your backup PG is a SG, and your starting C could really be a PF; and the two non-roster invites that the team is drooling over would also be SGs that would be asked to play point in a pinch.

I just see the Nets' primary objective at this point is to acquire a decent mid-level veteran center, not another PF. To get Smith, you'd have to give up the Nets' best bargaining chips (as I see it), Sean, Swift's contract, and KVH. Not only that, but it would reduce the court time and effectiveness of all these other players the Nets went to such great pains to acquire.

I feel like the Nets have one more move left in them--packaging some of these assets (possibly including Hassell) for a $8-$10 million center, and opening up a roster spot for Hodge or Carroll. Getting Smith won't accomplish that.

Put a decent center on this team--let's just use Brad Miller as a placeholder here--and suddenly this team looks pretty good. Josh Smith is terrific, but would he help the team as much?</div>
The only way they bring in another center is if they move both Sean and Boone, which I think is too much young talent to ship out. You have Yi, Najera, and Anderson at PF so there is no room for Boone there. He can only play center and between him and Lopez there aren't a lot of additional minutes available there. If they get someone to play center it will be a minor investment.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jul 28 2008, 12:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Jul 28 2008, 12:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Let me make clear that this is just my uninformed opinion.

Let's go under the assumption that there was no randomness associated with the Nets' moves so far. that they had a list of players that they wanted to purge from the roster, and either had a list of particular targets to acquire, or a list of attributes to acquire, which have been met by the players that they've obtained so far.

Josh Smith is a great player. No doubt. I guess he's mostly a PF and could also play SF, is that correct?

The fundamental question is how well he'd fit with the current makeup of the roster, with is clearly SG, SF, and PF-heavy. I mean, your backup PG is a SG, and your starting C could really be a PF; and the two non-roster invites that the team is drooling over would also be SGs that would be asked to play point in a pinch.

I just see the Nets' primary objective at this point is to acquire a decent mid-level veteran center, not another PF. To get Smith, you'd have to give up the Nets' best bargaining chips (as I see it), Sean, Swift's contract, and KVH. Not only that, but it would reduce the court time and effectiveness of all these other players the Nets went to such great pains to acquire.

I feel like the Nets have one more move left in them--packaging some of these assets (possibly including Hassell) for a $8-$10 million center, and opening up a roster spot for Hodge or Carroll. Getting Smith won't accomplish that.

Put a decent center on this team--let's just use Brad Miller as a placeholder here--and suddenly this team looks pretty good. Josh Smith is terrific, but would he help the team as much?</div>
The only way they bring in another center is if they move both Sean and Boone, which I think is too much young talent to ship out. You have Yi, Najera, and Anderson at PF so there is no room for Boone there. He can only play center and between him and Lopez there aren't a lot of additional minutes available there. If they get someone to play center it will be a minor investment.
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Boone will get hurt at some point, and Lopez isn't ready to play a significant number of minutes--and he's likely to break down after the all-star break, anyway. You always have to assume that your starter at each position will suffer a major injury, and try to ensure that the team can continue to fuction. When Boone gets hurt in training camp or in November, what will happen?

In a perfect world, Boone and Lopez will be getting 90% of the minutes between them at center . . . it's not going to happen, though.

Obviously, I wouldn't advocate moving Boone for a center--that would be counter-productive. They do need a third guy, though. Heck, trade Swift and Ager back for Collins.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Jul 28 2008, 01:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Boone will get hurt at some point, and Lopez isn't ready to play a significant number of minutes--and he's likely to break down after the all-star break, anyway. You always have to assume that your starter at each position will suffer a major injury, and try to ensure that the team can continue to fuction. When Boone gets hurt in training camp or in November, what will happen?

In a perfect world, Boone and Lopez will be getting 90% of the minutes between them at center . . . it's not going to happen, though.

Obviously, I wouldn't advocate moving Boone for a center--that would be counter-productive. They do need a third guy, though. Heck, trade Swift and Ager back for Collins.</div>
I agree they need a 3rd center, but I don't see it as someone like Brad Miller who is still very productive and has 2 years left on his deal. Collins I could see as the 3rd guy. It's going to be someone that doesn't mind sitting. I mentioned a possible trade for Jeff Foster in the other thread.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Petey @ Jul 28 2008, 12:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#1_War_Poet_ForLife @ Jul 28 2008, 11:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>We can still cut Vince's salary.</div>

Not cut. That would be on the Nets' book. The assumption is 'move' his contract for something more LBJ friendly.

-Petey
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Cut as in dump. It would be ridiculous to cut him, of course.

 

Think Atlanta would want Carter?

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jul 28 2008, 02:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Think Atlanta would want Carter?</div>
No. They have Joe johnson and if they don't want to pay Smith $10+mm I doubt they want to pay that VC.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jul 28 2008, 02:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jul 28 2008, 02:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Think Atlanta would want Carter?</div>
No. They have Joe johnson and if they don't want to pay Smith $10+mm I doubt they want to pay that VC.
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Because VC is an established veteran presence, and both Vince and Joe could play SG or SF.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#1_War_Poet_ForLife @ Jul 28 2008, 01:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Petey @ Jul 28 2008, 12:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#1_War_Poet_ForLife @ Jul 28 2008, 11:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>We can still cut Vince's salary.</div>

Not cut. That would be on the Nets' book. The assumption is 'move' his contract for something more LBJ friendly.

-Petey
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Cut as in dump.
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watch it---

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jul 28 2008, 02:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jul 28 2008, 02:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jul 28 2008, 02:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Think Atlanta would want Carter?</div>
No. They have Joe johnson and if they don't want to pay Smith $10+mm I doubt they want to pay that VC.
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Because VC is an established veteran presence, and both Vince and Joe could play SG or SF.
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He still makes too much money. Smith plays an important role there and they don't want to pay him more than $10mm a year. VC is due $14.5mm this year and guaranteed over $50mm in total.

 

I think the nets have no choice but to let him go. What team will pay Kristic after such a terrible season on suspect knee 10 million dollars? Which is the equivalent of what he will make in russia.

 

Okay.


From Al's blog:<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Regardless of the Krstic situation, the Nets are working on other moves. A team source said, "There will be a couple more."

If Krstic signs with Triumph, the Nets will retain his rights if/when he decides to return to the NBA.</div>

A couple? Not just one, but a couple. Well, that's interesting.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jul 28 2008, 01:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Okay.


From Al's blog:<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Regardless of the Krstic situation, the Nets are working on other moves. A team source said, "There will be a couple more."

If Krstic signs with Triumph, the Nets will retain his rights if/when he decides to return to the NBA.</div>

A couple? Not just one, but a couple. Well, that's interesting.
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well, they can't deal any of their drafted players or anyone signed or acquired in the off-season yet, right? And we can be pretty sure that they won't deal Carter or Devin Harris. So that leaves Hassell, Ager, Boone, Swift, and Sean. And KVH, I guess. I think one of those moves will involve dealing Ager and cash for a second-round pick. The other move will involve combining Sean with some number of the non-Boone guys for someone.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Jul 28 2008, 02:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jul 28 2008, 01:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Okay.


From Al's blog:<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Regardless of the Krstic situation, the Nets are working on other moves. A team source said, "There will be a couple more."

If Krstic signs with Triumph, the Nets will retain his rights if/when he decides to return to the NBA.</div>

A couple? Not just one, but a couple. Well, that's interesting.
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well, they can't deal any of their drafted players or anyone signed or acquired in the off-season yet, right? And we can be pretty sure that they won't deal Carter or Devin Harris. So that leaves Hassell, Ager, Boone, Swift, and Sean. And KVH, I guess. I think one of those moves will involve dealing Ager and cash for a second-round pick. The other move will involve combining Sean with some number of the non-Boone guys for someone.
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Yes they can. Just can't combine them with other players.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jul 28 2008, 01:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Jul 28 2008, 02:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jul 28 2008, 01:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Okay.


From Al's blog:<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Regardless of the Krstic situation, the Nets are working on other moves. A team source said, "There will be a couple more."

If Krstic signs with Triumph, the Nets will retain his rights if/when he decides to return to the NBA.</div>

A couple? Not just one, but a couple. Well, that's interesting.
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well, they can't deal any of their drafted players or anyone signed or acquired in the off-season yet, right? And we can be pretty sure that they won't deal Carter or Devin Harris. So that leaves Hassell, Ager, Boone, Swift, and Sean. And KVH, I guess. I think one of those moves will involve dealing Ager and cash for a second-round pick. The other move will involve combining Sean with some number of the non-Boone guys for someone.
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Yes they can. Just can't combine them with other players.
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oh, I didn't know that. I thought there was a straight 90-day moratorium on dealing someone you just signed.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Jul 28 2008, 02:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jul 28 2008, 01:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>
Yes they can. Just can't combine them with other players.</div>

oh, I didn't know that. I thought there was a straight 90-day moratorium on dealing someone you just signed.
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Nope. Remember the Rasheed to Atlanta and then just days later to the Pistons deal a few years back. We can move Simmons as long as we don't put another player in the package.