Hibbert is a pipe dream (Indy will match) and a waste of 3 key days when the offer is committed and we can't go after other players that we may have a realistic chance at
I agree, like we have any "realistic" chance to get someone better, plus he's on a nice deal. I still lake Dragic but have to wonder if he may get overpaid as well
That's my reaction too. It's looking like Lowry is the best we can hope for. But people will still cry about it if we end up with him, as if we should have done better, because I want, I want, I want. Nope, no spoiled delusional fans here. Yeah, I think I'd rather have Dragic, but I bet Lowry's defense is better. My only concern at this point is his spouting off about not being annointed the starter, and his bitching about the coach and saying 'trade me'. Not good signs IMO. Talent wise though, I'll be shocked if we do better.
Some guys here dislike Rudy for trying to get traded, but he was a piker compared to Lowry. Imagine if Rudy had said that he preferred not to play for McMillan, instead of for the NBA as a whole.
So what if it's between Lowry for the #11, with 2 years left at ~6 mil, and Lin as a free agent at ~9-10 mil. These guards were looking at, Lowery, Lin, Dragic have each been good only in a relativly short time span. It was long enough that we know it's not just a fluke...but even Raymond Felton has had good streaches.
I saw one Houston game live this year against Cp3 and the Clips, where both Dragic and Lowry played. And both had decent games. But I remember walking away from the game wishing we had Lowery and not even thinking about Dragic. Not sure why that was the case other than Lowry just impressed me more. This was early in the season and I was not even thinking it was possible to pry him away from the Rockets. I would be content with either one though.
4th quarter or overtime, less than 5 minutes left, neither team ahead by more than 5 points Lowry: 5.7 assists per 48, 6.2 TOs, 1.1 steals. Felton: 9.2 assists per 48, 3.3 TOs, 2.0 steals. Dragic: 8.2 assists per 48, 5.1 TOs, 1.9 steals.
lowry for nolan/shawne williams/2nd, that i would pull the trigger on and roll the dice with him, especially with his cap friendly contract. i'd lean more to dragic and don't think lowry is elite but above average. if we give up #11 for him i'd be disappointed.
i would be willing to trade the 11th for Lowry if we don't think we can sign Deron williams or Dragic. He is easily worth the 11th. I disgree with someone who said he has no upside; he is 26, has shown improvement in his PG skills and 3pt shooting and is a very athletic guy; no reason he wouldn't keep improving.
It seems you were cherry picking which categories you wanted to compare, or is there some other reason you left off Free Throws made? Getting your opponent into foul trouble is important right? Lowry bested Ray 4.5 to 1.7 in the two samples you chose to compare. You also left off Steals (1.8 vs 1.3) & Rebounds (5.3 vs 2.7). Add those three decisive category wins to Lowry also being a much bigger threat from deep, and it really isn't close at all. PER does a pretty nice job reflecting the overall stark difference between the two PGs. Lowry has been a starter the last two seasons posting PERs of 16.5 & 18.9 while Raymond went 14.7 & 13.4 STOMP
Lowry and McHale not BFF's http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7974223/houston-rockets-kyle-lowry-issue-kevin-mchale-coach
When you're cherry-picking stats to argue if Lowry is better than Felton, you've already lost your argument. NO
Why would anyone have to cherry pick? Lowry listed first per 36 min pts 16.0 12.9 ast 7.4 7.4 rbs 5.1 2.8 tos 3.1 3.2 stl 1.7 1.5 fg% 409 407 3p% 374 305 ft% 864 806 fta 4.7 2.3 PER 18.9 13.4 off rtg 111 99 def rtg 104 109 win shares per 48 (average is 100) 157 42 As for injuries, minus his rookie year when he broke his wrist and missed all but 10 games, he has played in 89% of his teams games over his career. LA has played in 91%, Nic 72%
"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Mediocre Man again." First time I've had this problem. Congrats.
