<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ChuckTheD @ Apr 13 2007, 07:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, but Kobe's much more proven in the clutch then Dirk is. Kobe's come thru in countless pressure situations. One lousy fourth quarter in a regular season game isn't gonna change that. Especially when he was the one who got them the lead.</div>Kobe choked in the biggest stage as well. Remember the Lakers and Pistons series? lol
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ChuckTheD @ Apr 13 2007, 11:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>For the most part they really don't deserve it. But Kobe, Luke, and Ronny are the only guys on the team who consistently show effort. I'm the biggest Lakers fan you'll meet, and I'll never give up on this team, but I can say honestly that this team does not deserve to call themselves a playoff team or a good team. Now I'm hoping to God that they prove me wrong, but as of now, it looks that way.</div>While I understand what your saying it doesn't mean they still don't deserve to be in the playoffs. Did you forget about the whole first half of the season when the Lakers were challenging for the 3rd or 4th seed in the West? They were a great team for the first half of the season and they got struck by the injury bug and they haven't been the same since even with Luke and Odom being back. I'm not saying they have an excuse for playing bad right now but I think they deserve it based on how the played the whole first half of the season.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Apr 13 2007, 12:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Kobe choked in the biggest stage as well. Remember the Lakers and Pistons series? lol</div>you mean the lakers pistons series when he made a 35 foot game tying shot in their only win?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Apr 13 2007, 02:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Like I said put anyone in that position and they would feel immense pressure. Dirk does miss free throws though not often. He missed one earlier that game as well. 90% is no gimme. He was clutch though in game 7 against the spurs making that free throws to take it to overtime. It gets annoying that Dirk gets singled out for choking more than anyone out there. Everyone chokes.</div>Kobe was clutch in game 5 in the playoffs though
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pinoy Balla @ Apr 13 2007, 08:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Kobe was clutch in game 5 in the playoffs though</div>In which year? lol Last year Kobe was again a no show in game 7 against the Suns. This is a lame topic because every superstar has his clutch and choke moments.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Apr 13 2007, 01:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No I mean the other games where he was a no show.</div>You mean like how Dirk no showed every single game in the Miami series?
The fact is Kobe doesn't know how to run his team without Shaq. Dirk does know how despite not having a big man. More pressure is put on Dirk to be the man and Miami was double teaming Dirk and other players weren't making shots. The whole Dallas team slumped at the same time.
So Dirks excuse is he was getting double teamed? Kind of like how Kobe gets double or triple teamed every game even though it doesn't stop him. I'm not gonna even bother responding to your comment that Dirk has more pressure on him to lead his team...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Apr 13 2007, 12:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Kobe choked in the biggest stage as well. Remember the Lakers and Pistons series? lol</div>Kobe also made the game tying shot that gave the Lakers a fighting chance in that series. Remember in 2000 when he took over Game 4 when Shaq fouled out, scoring the last 8 points in Overtime at the age of 21? He got the game winner in that series. He played great against Philly the next year and New Jersey as well. As I've said he's proven. In Game 7 last year he had 23 points at halftime and LA was still down by 15. It was obvious that for them to win Kwame and Lamar would have to step up. So they ran the offense thru them, they didn't deliver. And the Lakers lost.
<span style="font-family:Arial">Wow, I can't believe what I'm reading. I'm gonna make a topic with the dumbest Mavsfan quotes, I can come up with 5,143 of them.</span>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BALLAHOLLIC? @ Apr 13 2007, 09:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><span style="font-family:Arial">Wow, I can't believe what I'm reading. I'm gonna make a topic with the dumbest Mavsfan quotes, I can come up with 5,143 of them.</span></div>Just stating the facts. Obviously you are too much of a Kobe fan to see the truth.
<span style="font-family:Arial">I'm not even a Kobe fan, I'm just smart enough to realize that he's better in the clutch than Dirk.</span><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Just stating the facts. Obviously you are too much of a Kobe fan to see the truth.</div> <span style="font-family:Arial">5,144</span>
Edit. I might come around once in a while but I obviously am a misfit here. People already established me as a biased homer and it is hard to change an image.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Apr 13 2007, 03:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wow I guess it took me this long to figure what kind of Admin you are. The biggest mistake I ever made was merging with this site. I'm gone.</div>I still can't believe how biased and ignorant you are. EVERYONE on this site has this same general opinion and you differ yet you believe you are right and everyone else is wrong. Think about it. If all the members on this site including non Laker fans believe something then maybe you should think about your opinion, and how you might be in the wrong.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ChuckTheD @ Apr 12 2007, 10:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Man shut up. If you guys are a true playoff team you wouldn't be relying on other teams to get you in. Maybe if the Warriors hadn't lost all 4 games against the Lakers this year they'd be in a little better shape.</div>If we beat you guys you'll be 1 or 2 games away from being out of the playoffs so you guys are also partially relying on teams to lose.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ASUFan22 @ Apr 13 2007, 04:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If we beat you guys you'll be 1 or 2 games away from being out of the playoffs so you guys are also partially relying on teams to lose.</div>Yeah, we are but we aren't commenting and whining about it.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ASUFan22 @ Apr 13 2007, 04:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If we beat you guys you'll be 1 or 2 games away from being out of the playoffs so you guys are also partially relying on teams to lose.</div>Yeah, and if the Warriors and Clippers win out and we end up out of the playoffs. I'm not gonna be mad at them. I'll be mad at the Lakers. A team should control it's own destiny, not rely on others to do it for them.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ChuckTheD @ Apr 13 2007, 05:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, and if the Warriors and Clippers win out and we end up out of the playoffs. I'm not gonna be mad at them. I'll be mad at the Lakers. A team should control it's own destiny, not rely on others to do it for them.</div>yeah, but there's a difference between falling off a cliff starting in january and dominating every team you play with a 10 ppg winning margin over your last 20 games of the season but barely missing the playoffs. That's controlling your destiny as much as you can, but having your past catch up to you.
