LA gone before or on draft day

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  1. Tortimer

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    I would also probably do this trade.
     
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    I wouldn't. You end up with what's likely to be three mid-level talents for one All-Star (second tier, admittedly, but 2X All Star nonetheless) and no significant cap space relief. I think this puts the Blazers in mediocrityville for the foreseeable future.
     
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    I thought HOU had a decent pick this yr, they don't. However we could easily have Trob in the deal and move him to Char for a pick (rumored deal), I think Asik gets underrated as I believe he has become one of the better "all around" C's in the NBA
     
  4. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    can't trade LA for bullshit. can't be left with zero allstars if we ever want to make the playoffs...preference would be at least 2 allstars on the team. if he leaves, fuck it, we'll deal with it when it comes...Asik and Parsons aren't really worth it to remain in mediocrity. they are subpar role players at best.

    i've been thinking if CP3 and Blake Griffiin can't get along...and Doc Rivers being a veteran coach, if there might be a BG for LA swap...might make some sense here...although I prefer LA. Maybe something like DeAndre Jordan and Eric Bledsoe if the clippers are looking to move those guys for a star player...he'd be preferable to KG.
     
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    Asik is a "subpar roleplayer"? well we see that very differently
     
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    trading for Griffin and Jordan would certainly help our FT percentage at least
     
  7. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    career 5.5 ppg and 7 rpg. yes, he's a subpar role player.
     
  8. BrianFromWA

    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

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    Seems that the two bolded points don't quite mesh. Agree that Asik and Parsons aren't what should be coming back for LMA, but maximizing what you get for him most likely means trading him this summer. So that you don't end up with bullshit (or worse, nothing) when he leaves. At least high draft picks have a potential to become really good players. I don't think Parsons does.

    A BG-for-LMA swap would be--interesting. I don't love it, but I'd have to think about it. 5 years of BG vs. 2 years of LMA? Still need a big. Still need a bench. Still aren't bad enough to keep next year's pick if we continue to draft intelligently.
     
  9. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    Why don't we maximize trading Lillard while we're at it. He may eventually leave one day too.

    Unless we get an all star or potential all star in return, trading him would be completely stupid. if we're left with nothing in return, big deal...we tried the same with Zach...try to trade him to "at least get something" which blew up in our face big time. We can trade him if he's an expiring contract or let him walk and have more cap space which is probably better than some crappy non-top 3 draft pick in a shitty draft to begin with.
     
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    He can't leave for nothing for 8 years. LMA can do it in 22 months.
     
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    That's almost funny that you use a career avergae for a guy who got his chance and has a breakout yr - just brilliant of you. Last year at HOU 10 PPG and 11 rebs, in the playoffs 12 and 11. the guy got his chance to start and proved how good he is, he's also know as an excellent defender

    "Simply put, Asik is the most important defender on the Rockets roster. When Asik is on the floor, Houston allows just 105 points per 100 possessions compared to when he isn’t on the floor, where Houston allows 112.7.

    Omer Asik is brilliant when defending the pick-and-roll, he can guard a perimeter player for a few seconds before quickly switching back to the roll man like few can in the NBA. Perhaps Asik could block more shots–he has only blocked 1.1 per game–but instead of attempting to, he simply jumps straight in the air to keep himself out of foul trouble. This is understandable as he is just so vital to this Rockets team."
     
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  12. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    ooh..breakout year of 10 and 11 on a team composed of perimeter chuckers! :MARIS61:
     
  13. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    so what if he does. cap space to sign someone. he may resign if the direction of the team in 22 months is pretty positive, which I believe it is. its not like we're a horribly shitty team with no future. there isn't a need to trade him unless an irresistible package comes along. that means getting a younger allstar in return.
     
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    Yet when it involves letting him walk, it's ok now? Because you can "use that space to sign someone?" LOL. Why not trade him for a boatload now, and then use the extra space to sign someone NOW?
     
  15. EL PRESIDENTE

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    boatload of what? boatload of non-impact players? we need go-to guys, how are we ever going to get them if we trade all stars in their prime for a couple of role players?
     
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    #1 is a role player? Thompson and/or #19 and/or future firsts don't have potential to be impact players?

    Sure we need role players. Babbitt/Sasha/Ronnie/Jeffries/Nolan played 4000 minutes for us last year. We need role players, we need good players, we need a bunch of everything. Except perhaps PFs that shoot over 700 of the most inefficient shots in basketball at a 42% rate. We may not need that as much.
     
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    I just don't understand what "all-star" has to do with it. Do all-stars get credited with 3 points for every 2-point shot or something? All-star is just a label that means dick-all. We need players who have a positive impact on the game, regardless of whether they're an all-star or not.
     
  18. EL PRESIDENTE

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    Its a shitty draft year. What, we're going to pick up a guy who just had an ACL injury? 19th pick in the draft is not going to be an impact player. Tristan Thompson is not a franchise player.

    This is basically the same discussion when we traded ZBO for zilch-o. Some people never learn...we have a nice path right now. just keep on building on.
     
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    Either is LMA.
     
  20. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    All stars win rings in this league. some people just want to have just as an obscure team as possible for some god knows what reason. gotta keep the big players in PDX like Aldridge. I don't see any upside to trading him. My philosophy is just to stack the best players possible, then go for the fillers...seems like y'all want to do the opposite...just make a team full of journeymen and hope it clicks. won't work.
     

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