Ladies, let's talk Collins and Nurk

Shows how far Nard's has come that people are calling for him to enter the game.
Who knows what would've happened those two years he went into the off-season injured and was forced to rehab. Instead of play basketball.
No excuses he should've got his head out of his ass far quicker. But it looks like it's finally happened.
The guy doesn't make excuses and he finally owns his pump faking casper. Dare I say it even propels him into playing better.
Now if he comes into next year better on the defensive end, Portland might have something.(Ala not just a 7ft broomstick guards throw runners over)

 

That's crazy. Nurk is 100x better than Zach.

 

Okay, that's false.

 

not really. Need glasses?

 

Lol.

"100x better"

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Right now, he kinda is. Zach is playing like a rec leaguer.

 

I think its clearly hyperbole that Nurk is 100x better. At least to me Nurk is definitely better how we want to quantify that, I have no idea. Zach is probably the one guy on the team that I just watch and think so is he going to figure this out or not? He’s got potential, tons of it. Whether its coaching or age, or whatever he has not put it all together yet...

 

I know this will just bring back the Im a Zach hater stuff, but I kind of wish he had stayed in School and let Mark Few coach him up. Most of the guys Few has coached have come into the league with a very good core set of skills.

 

Maybe it's because it's the weekend and everyone's trying to live their best fish life but...

This comment is silly. Does defense not mean ANYTHING anymore...? Zach has a +1.5BPM (-0.2 Off / +1.7 Def).

...And his offense isn't even bad! He's shooting 59% from 2pt, 38% from 3pt, and 87% from the FT-line (for a stellar 63.4 TS%).

What is up with everyone lately? Smh.

 

He’s averaging just over 8 ppg and 4rpg. I know, no stat can really encapsulate all that goes on, on a basketball court. However lately he has problems just staying out of foul trouble. Some of its he doesnt have the respect from the refs yet. Some of it is just silly fouls.

Also Turnovers are quickly becoming a problem for him (and the whole freaking team) his tov% this year is 19.7.

He’s got potential, but I think its hard to say him or anyone on the bench played all that well on that road trip. Hopefully this homestand helps them get back on track.

 

Do you see what I'm responding too? The dude said jesus 100x worse than Nurkic and playing like a Rec Leaguer... of course he's going to struggle in different aspects, he just turned 21 years old. That comment was simply ridiculous.

 

They also come in older than Zach is now and still need a year or two to hit their stride...

So do you agree with the post your adding onto that says Zach is playing like a Rec Leaguer???

 

Im not quite sure this is a serious question... Short answer, no...
I think he’s struggled but I think its a product of playing most of his minutes with a 2nd unit thats struggling.
Id honestly rather they ran the offense through Zach at the mid post, than through ET... Offensively to me Zach is still a work in progress, but ET is mostly just bad, even this years improved version of ET isnt particularly exciting.

I just think Zach wouldve benefitted with another year of college, especially because I believe Gonzaga does an amazing job at developing basketball skills.

 

Yah, Nurk most likely can't beat 100 Zachs on the floor or even two Zachs so don't take it too literally.

But Nurk has a PER of almost 25 and is an elite defender to boot. You don't create a great team by trading your best players to develop hopefuls just because you are frustrated by a few losses. That's crazy! (take that part literally).

 

You didn't even refute his statement of Zach being a Rec Leaguer... you added onto it. Lol.

But also, if I gave you his stats and you didn't know who it was, you'd think that player was playing well, not struggling.

 

I think we want him to be PF in order for us to fit both Nurk and Zach, but I really see a C in Zach. Especially the way NBA is going, he would be better at C.

 

I respect your right to have an opinion. There is a theory that conflict may sometimes be a substitute for intimacy. That doesn't appeal to me.

 

LOL at myself; I thought you were trying to show him how to call someone's opinion "false", not "crazy".

 

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Depends on what stats you gave me. Give me the Stats from his last 5-6 games and Id determine he’s struggling...
Edit: Also I didnt refute his statement because it was obviously hyperbole...