James is no where near a consistent deep threat yet, fact is sometimes teams dare him to shoot it because he is off. The %'s don't lie.
gunner, James ain't close to a consistent deep threat yet. Driving to the hoop, and forcing fouls is his strong point.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting King James:</div><div class="quote_post">James is no where near a consistent deep threat yet, fact is sometimes teams dare him to shoot it because he is off. The %'s don't lie.</div> I remember watching a couple of his high school games and he was a very inconsistent shooter, but watching him in OT, I figured he'd improved. I better go do some research
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting cArMeLo15:</div><div class="quote_post">The Cavs had SEVENTEEN more shots than the Lakers, yet they still lost. Somebody mind explaining that?</div> The Cavs had more shots because they had a lot of offensive rebounds. For example Big Z missing a layup, getting his rebound, missing again, getting a rebound, and then finally making it. So that equates to 3 shots on 1 possession for the Cavs. The Cavs also forced more turnovers 9 versus 6 for the Lakers, and it's likely the turnovers the Cavs forced led to layups, equating to more shots. I'm glad the Lakers fought back and won this game in OT. Payton was huge for us tonight, and Horace Grant did a great job off the bench hitting those vintage mid range jumpers. A tough loss for the Cavs, and for LeBron missing a lot of shots in the end. But at least he's taking those shots now, unlike he did earlier in the season. These situations are only going to push him harder and build up his toughness. That airball he shot brought back memories of Kobe's back to back airballs against the Jazz his rookie. Kobe rebounded nicely from that, and I expect the same thing to happen for LeBron.
He will be fine in time, I am not worried about that. I still want a deadly deep shooter regardless of how he ends up.
What ever happened to Trajan Langdon? I was just thinking about deep shooters and the Alaskan Assassin's name popped into my head.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting 3-pt.-gunner:</div><div class="quote_post">What ever happened to Trajan Langdon? I was just thinking about deep shooters and the Alaskan Assassin's name popped into my head.</div> No d, no handles, no slashing ability. Does not matter how well you shoot it, takes more than that to make the NBA.
The Cavs should make a run at Jason Terry this year. How about Wagner, Newble, and a 2nd rounder for him?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting King James:</div><div class="quote_post">No d, no handles, no slashing ability. Does not matter how well you shoot it, takes more than that to make the NBA.</div> Fred Hoiberg and John Barry tell me that shooting is all it took them to land NBA jobs.
Barry plays defense and comes from a great basketball family. I don't really have an explanation for Hoiberg, but I imagine he's a vocal leader in practice and in the locker room and also seems to fit right in on any team he plays for.
I am definitely a Brown over Newble guy. Both are above average defenders, but Kedrick offers three point shooting on the other end. Granted, I think he would drop dead if he ever stepped inside the 3 point line. Newble on the other hand really doesn't have any offense. He will occasionally hit a mid range shot, but thats about it. Brown is also a better weapon out on fast breaks since he is a better finisher. I can't for the life of me figure out why he won't utilize his 40 inch vertical and take it strong to the hole. As far as the Newble block against the Heat, I'm pretty sure the ball slipped out of Wade's hands and had not shot of going in, but it did look pretty. I just don't understand how Brown went from a starter to a DNP'er over night after picking up Mcinnis. I guess it has to do with the fact that we signed Newble to a long term contract (foolishly) and we feel we have to play him. Regarding Langdan, he was a great free throw shooter, but apparently you have to do more than that to make it in the NBA. He had a nice J, but thats was the extent of it. No D, no ball handling, no rebounding, not a good passer, etc.
Newble has been finding out ways to start and get minutes the last 2 years with the Hawks and the Cavs. I understand where you guys are coming from with his offense and such, but there is more to it than that. Silas wants to stress defense, and because of our defense we have been winning a lot more games. So I believe he wants to lead by example, you play defense, I'll find minutes for you. I would have done the same thing that Silas is doing now with Kedrick, to try and give him a little wakeup call. I was getting very angry watching him just sit out there hitting those sideline 3's (he is not as good from the other angles) and not taking it to the basket. I just feel he can't, he has no handles, mo moves, just a set jump shot, it's sad. So let's see if Silas opens up soon, maybe Brown will change his game.
The Cavs still need an outside scoring punch that neither of the two provide consistently. I don't see both of them being around come next year. The Cavs need to acquire a SF with a perimeter game so that teams can't zone us to death and cut off all the penetration. Well, thats enough game analysis for tonight. I think there is a far more important question that needs to be answered.... could anyone look at Rick Fox tonight and keep a straight face? Seriously, what was up with his hair?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting redscoon:</div><div class="quote_post">Seriously, what was up with his hair?</div> You know Rick got to keep that Playboy image to keep his wife happy as well as keep those endorsement deals going (Radio Shack, lol, I have not been to that place in ages)
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">"I said what I felt," said O'Neal, who wanted to score 50. "You can never control me. I'm a 31-year-old juvenile delinquent. No one can control me." O'Neal finished 9-of-20 from the line, and the rest of the Lakers weren't much better, making just 26-of-40 (62 percent). LeBron James scored 32 points -- including three 3-pointers in OT -- but shot an airball from 21 feet with a chance to win it at the end of regulation. "It was right on line," Cleveland's rookie star said. "It just fell short." Carlos Boozer had 25 points and 16 rebounds and Eric Williams scored all 20 of his points after halftime for the Cavs, who despite the loss are 7-3 since Jan. 17.</div> Full Story <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"><font size="3">Cavs sink to Lakers in OT</font> O'Neal's 37 points boost L.A. to win in Cleveland Their comeuppance came in purple and gold. As solid as the Cavaliers have played over the last three weeks, they've won more than their share by some razor-thin margins by surviving last-second shots and getting bounces when they were most needed. On Wednesday night, though, they went down the wrong side of the sword against the Lakers, who were able to outbattle the Cavaliers to a 111-106 overtime win at a sold-out Gund Arena. Playing on a back-to-back, thin in the post without the injured Tony Battie, and facing a determined Shaquille O'Neal as he came off a suspension proved to be a deadly cocktail.</div> Full Story
That shot could have been the greatest thing I have ever witnessed in Gund Arena history. The noise of the crowd was breath taking as they saw who was taking the last shot. Man....
James is proving that not electing him to ASG was big...big mistake :thumbsdow. Lakers play very good game. Two veterans was too much for young Cavs team. I like what Boozer said about O'Neal: "I was trying to push him. Pushing a wall is what if felt like" :mrgreen:
The refs really did a crappy job on the fouls last night. It was pathedic, Z will slap O'Neil on the wrist and he'll get a foul and he'll slam it down like he was the strongest man alive, not to mention he lowers his shoulder, something that I have been seeing a lot of calls going against the Cavs like that, why should Shaq get all the calls? Not to mention that on the other end, Shaq will kill someone and there will be no call. Refs giving people respect to the point where he can basically tackle the other player, then he gets touched and it might as well be a T. NBA REFS SUCK A$$
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Amherstcavsfan:</div><div class="quote_post">The refs really did a crappy job on the fouls last night. It was pathedic, Z will slap O'Neil on the wrist and he'll get a foul and he'll slam it down like he was the strongest man alive, not to mention he lowers his shoulder, something that I have been seeing a lot of calls going against the Cavs like that, why should Shaq get all the calls? Not to mention that on the other end, Shaq will kill someone and there will be no call. Refs giving people respect to the point where he can basically tackle the other player, then he gets touched and it might as well be a T. NBA REFS SUCK A$$</div> Please. Stop all that whining. The refs missed calls on the Lakers too that were clear to see on the TV screen.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Laker_Fever_834:</div><div class="quote_post">Please. Stop all that whining. The refs missed calls on the Lakers too that were clear to see on the TV screen.</div> You are one to tell someone to stop the crying? That's a first. The calls were not 50/50 last night, which I understand they never are, but a lot of experts were saying that Shaq's words after the Toronto game had a huge impact last night. Countless times I saw Shaq stick his forearm into Z's neck to back him off, and they called a foul on Z. I know you will never agree, so it is kid of pointless to argue. "Next Topic!" - Max Kellerman
