<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Real Deal:</div><div class="quote_post">When I said regardless of his defense, I also added "good or bad." To be honest with you, Peja's defense IS in fact bad. He's as tall as Odom, but Odom could burn Peja from the perimeter every time. However, that doesn't make up for how many shots he can land... But...the Lakers need a PG, and the Lakers need a defensive-minded PG at that. Then, they need a defensive PF so we can drop Odom down to SF. Priority-wise, we get this (in order): 1) Defensive-minded PG who has playmaking skills 2) Defensive PF who can crash the boards 3) Shooters that can hit shots (where Peja fits in)</div> I agree, we do need a defensive-minded point guard. The only thing I would change with your list is i'd switch two and three. If you ask me, we have guys who can crash boards. They just aren't exceeding expectations that they are capable of. Most of our problems are mentality problems. Chucky Atkins COULD be a playmaker, but he isn't. (He has the necessary skills, and talent.) He COULD play defense... but he's lazy. It's not like our point guard is Keith McCleod. (Who is actually doing better then I thought I would, pretty good passer and very fast... but isn't very good at all otherwise, anyhow that's off-topic...) Therefore, yes I agree, we need a new point guard. So you've changed my mind... perhaps a good point guard, that can play very good defense is more important... but I still wouldn't mind having Peja.
What are Peja's stats? And ESPN had a column a while ago talking about the Lakers real big chances of getting Yao in 2006, by giving the max offer. And give Yao a little slack he is still learning the American type of basketball (personally I don't think Patrick Ewing is the best mentor for him, now Vlade Divac thats a mentor.)
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting kobe2mike:</div><div class="quote_post">What are Peja's stats? And ESPN had a column a while ago talking about the Lakers real big chances of getting Yao in 2006, by giving the max offer. And give Yao a little slack he is still learning the American type of basketball (personally I don't think Patrick Ewing is the best mentor for him, now Vlade Divac thats a mentor.)</div> BSPN doesn't know what they're talking about. You can't give the max salary to anyone if you're over the cap...and we will in fact be over the cap in 2006. And Cody 7k, I didn't mean we need a PF because of their rebounding...we just need one that can start really, so we can move Odom down to SF...but a rebounding PF is a plus, also.
^You lazy or something? Nba.com: Predrag Stojakovic Sacramento Kings Position: F Height: 6-10 Weight: 229 From: Serbia-Montenegro '02 Player file | Team stats 2004-05 Statistics PPG 20.5 RPG 4.5 APG 1.7 SPG 1.04 BPG .32 FG% .449 FT% .935 3P% .392 MPG 39.4 Note that he practically never misses free-throws, and he is shooting as good from the three-pointer as Kobe is his regular Field goal percentage. Most players start off lower on field goal percentage and increase it slightly by the end of the season, so no worries with Kobe. He's been shooting pretty well lately. Oh, and he shot 6-10 from behind the trey to lead the Kings past the Spurs on Sunday. Well this isn't new, he does this like.. a lot. Yao Ming doesn't need slack. He needs to quit being lazy and start playing the game with more heart, more energy, more determination.. ya know, be more agressive. He's just... soft, and spoiled. I'd rather Mihm than Ming... well maybe not, but Mihm is good enough in comparison to this guy. Edit: Real Deal, you posted when I did. This post is in response to mike. And yeah, Peja never look 6'10" to me. He should be getting more rebounds and blocks. I agree, being able to move Lamar Odom down to SF would be nice, but not as nice as having a shooter like Peja. A forward is a forward, yes there are differences, but Odom is perfectly capable. Again on the Yao Ming topic, how long does it take to learn "American Basketball". Basketball is Basketball, yeah I know China is a bit different, but after over two years (two years I think?) shouldn't he be able to grasp the concept of "American Basketball" by now?
Yeah I'm kinda lazy. And about Yao I guess you are right, in highligts I always seeing him getting dunked on, then pretends that he is mad, and gets dunked on again.
^Earl Boykins could probably dunk on Yao Ming. I don't get it, its like he outplayed Shaq a few times when he wanted to, and has had some other good games... but he is just... inconsistent. Why can't this guy put up decent numbers every night? (Well decent as in what is expected from a 7'5" first pick center) Does he just not really care or something?
I wouldnt mind the kings getting Duncan or Lebron,or both,but thats not going to happen is it.Somebody realize that both of these acquisitions are virtually out of LA's grasp.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting kobe2mike:</div><div class="quote_post">What are Peja's stats? And ESPN had a column a while ago talking about the Lakers real big chances of getting Yao in 2006, by giving the max offer. And give Yao a little slack he is still learning the American type of basketball (personally I don't think Patrick Ewing is the best mentor for him, now Vlade Divac thats a mentor.)</div> Slightly off topic here.....so sorry. But, this is Yao's third year in the league. If he hasn't adjusted to the American style of ball by now, somethings wrong. His problem is lack of aggressiveness. But, yea, I'm not gonna drive this anymore off topic. And Ewing is a great mentor. He's one of the best big men in the history of the NBA. Only a couple that'd be better than him would be the likes of Hakeem and Shaq and probably some others.
Actually Yao Ming is 7'6. Also how could earl boykins (5'5) even dunk, i mean cmon kobe always passed the ball to shaq and noone could block shaq cause he is so fat, well i shouldnt use that word,hmm big is better, ok so noone could block shaq cause he was big and yao ming is really skinny, but yao should start being more agressive for a first round pick
The Earl Boykins comment was kinda sarcasm. I'm pretty sure Earl Boykins can dunk, but I don't know for sure. A lot of people have dunked on Yao. Too many... Yao may be skinny, but he's a bit taller than Shaq... you know what, this stupid. Yao Ming is obviously just not dedicated, I don't think he really cares. If he did he'd hit the bench, gain some weight, well muscle at least, learn American Ball, and play those NBA games like he's payed 80kish for or whatever he gets payed per game.
Get rid of George and add Peja. Im not a huge fan of Peja, but he definiately would benefit the team. With Divac here, who knows, it might happen. Just have to figure out how to manuver a couple big contracts. Especially Grant's. His is killer!!!
Give up Yao? NEVER!!!!!!! Besides if he came to LA Kobe will use him as a scape goat for next time when he robs a candy store or something and it'll be unfair to Yao because he can't speak english well enough.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rocketman:</div><div class="quote_post">Give up Yao? NEVER!!!!!!! Besides if he came to LA Kobe will use him as a scape goat for next time when he robs a candy store or something and it'll be unfair to Yao because he can't speak english well enough.</div> Nobody would suspect him...he's soft. He wouldn't rob the candy store...the clerk would lay him out. Yao and Peja aren't coming to LA because we don't need them in LA. Amare isn't going anywhere because the Suns are winning...simple as that. For what we'd have to give Yao, I'd rather keep Mihm...Chris is tougher.
Yeah, i'd rather Mihm. But i'd still give up George and Grant for Peja anyday. You may not be a fan of his Real Deal, (neither am I really.. but I do like the way he can score) but you can admit that Peja would help our team more than both of those guys combined, no? The problem is, the Kings would never consider those trades.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Cody 7k:</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah, i'd rather Mihm. But i'd still give up George and Grant for Peja anyday. You may not be a fan of his Real Deal, (neither am I really.. but I do like the way he can score) but you can admit that Peja would help our team more than both of those guys combined, no? The problem is, the Kings would never consider those trades.</div> Haha, well...if we're talking about trading off George...okay. But Peja won't leave Sac-town unless it involves Odom...even if he wanted to leave. To that, I say no chance...I wouldn't trade Odom for any single player on the Kings.
I'd trade Odom for Mike Bibby and Songaila ...Kings wouldn't do it because they'd have no PG considering BJax is always injured, and I don't think I would as the Lakers GM either, but meh...
I would trade Odom for Mike Bibby and fillers also..wait, no I wouldn't..I just got my Odom jersey..oh well, I believe MIke Bibby and filler for Odom would do us good, we need a pg like Bibby.
The Lakers should forget Peja and Yao and try to steal Artest away from the Pacers now while his trade value is low. Caron Butler, Mihm, and some draft picks may get it done.
The Lakers wont trade Mihm...I think Caron and another scrub would get it done, I think Indiana wants him out and I would love to have him here, I think we could clear his head and with a defensive presence like that, it would be awesome.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Real Deal:</div><div class="quote_post">Haha, well...if we're talking about trading off George...okay. But Peja won't leave Sac-town unless it involves Odom...even if he wanted to leave. To that, I say no chance...I wouldn't trade Odom for any single player on the Kings.</div> Yeah, no kidding... George hasn't done anything for us all year, all injured and stuff. Truthfully, even if he wasn't injured, I wouldn't want him on the court. All he does is stands on the trey and waits for a three-point shot. He needs to be productive, move his feet around and make things happen. I love Lamar, and even though he isn't playing like we thought he would, I think we should keep him. Mike Bibby isn't worth Lamar Odom. Mike Bibby could really help our team... i'd love to have him here. It'd be awesome if him and Kobe could tango.
