I like how this guy is trying to use this one ABA title to prove that the Pacers are a winning organization...Lakers have won eight titles since Indiana has entered the NBA, and won the conference 13 times. Pacers have only won the conference on one occaison (where they were, coincidentally, beat by the Lakers).For the record, you can't even get your own stats right, the Pacers have 3 ABA titles...By the way, if the ABA was so much tougher, as you say, why did the Pacers have only one winning season in their first 13 in the NBA? Hell, they only won 44 games that season anyway.
Pacers fan is showing signs of being a desparate man. -Making up stats-making up things about Jerry West.-making fun of the leagues best player-saying that Odom couldn't gaurd whats-his-name-trying to debate ROK-says Granger is a better defender than Prince-and my personal favourite "consider yourself unread"HAHAHAHA
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Oct 29 2006, 04:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wow, going from .7 spg and .8 bpg to 2 and 2 is pretty impressive. Too bad that wont happen at all. And what do steals and blocks have to do with playing great perimeter D. AI gets loads of steals, but he is a bad 1 on 1 defender.Limited offensive skills? Once again, you proved your intelligence here. Prince averaged 14 ppg as the 4th option on the Pistons. How many players can boast those numbers as a 4th option? Please, go ahead and tell me. Oh, and Tayshaun has a ton of skill on offense. He rarely has the ball in his hand, but he still finds ways to score. He is a great shooter, he's quick, he can drive. He has a silky offensive game, and he is a good offensive player. Idk how you managed to compare his offensive skill to Jason Collins, but expect to hear the boo-birds pretty soon...</div>yes it will know why?cause he will double his minutesyou know why he's got 14 ppg?because his teamates are always doubleteamed and all he needs to do is catch the ball and dunk itseems like most of the time the pistons play us prince has a horrible shooting percentage and not very many points<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clangus @ Oct 29 2006, 05:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Pacers fan is showing signs of being a desparate man. -Making up stats-making up things about Jerry West.-making fun of the leagues best player-saying that Odom couldn't gaurd whats-his-name-trying to debate ROK-says Granger is a better defender than Prince-and my personal favourite "consider yourself unread"HAHAHAHA</div> :thumbdn1: :thumbdn1: :thumbdn1: :thumbdn1: :thumbdn1: :thumbdn1: :thumbdn1:http://www.nba.com/history/players/barry_bio.htmlbtw - I never said anything about jerry west
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Oct 29 2006, 09:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>yes it will know why?cause he will double his minutes</div>Following that logic...why don't people start Eddie House, I mean, he'd be a 20 point scorer with about 4 dimes to boot. Shoot get Moochie Norris in there for a whole game and he'd average 16 points, 5 boards, and damn near six assists...By the way, .8 and .7 doubled is 1.6 and 1.4...not exactly 2 apiece...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Fouled Out @ Oct 29 2006, 10:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Following that logic...why don't people start Eddie House, I mean, he'd be a 20 point scorer with about 4 dimes to boot. Shoot get Moochie Norris in there for a whole game and he'd average 16 points, 5 boards, and damn near six assists...By the way, .8 and .7 doubled is 1.6 and 1.4...not exactly 2 apiece...</div>don't forget the fact that he's more used to the game, his conditioning is better, and his bball iq is up - that will increase the statistics even more
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Oct 29 2006, 10:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>btw - I never said anything about jerry west</div>When referencing players from the ABA...<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>dr. j - no one played more beautifully and freelymel daniels - one of the finest big men in basketball history, nobody knows it cause little is remembered about the abageorge mcginnis - better scorer than kobe, and more respectablejerry west - bird before birdmoses malone - first to jump from high school to the pros, one of the greatest bigs of all timesthe aba was full of many other free spirits who brought competiveness and beauty to the game of basketball</div>Jerry West was a member of the Lakers from 1960 until his retirement in 1974...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>btw - I never said anything about jerry west</div>Of course you did: <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>George McGiniss, Mel Daniels, Jerry West (I believe), Moses Malone, and of course the famous Dr. J.</div> You didn't even mention Rick Barry.
eddie house is considered too small to be a 2 guard and not a good enough passer to pe a 1people see him as a tweenercourse that's also what people said about gilbert arenas...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Oct 29 2006, 11:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>yes it will know why?cause he will double his minutesyou know why he's got 14 ppg?because his teamates are always doubleteamed and all he needs to do is catch the ball and dunk itseems like most of the time the pistons play us prince has a horrible shooting percentage and not very many points :thumbdn1: :thumbdn1: :thumbdn1: :thumbdn1: :thumbdn1: :thumbdn1: :thumbdn1:http://www.nba.com/history/players/barry_bio.htmlbtw - I never said anything about jerry west</div>Oh, I get it, so Danny Granger will play 44 mpg next year, right? No..He will play 30-34 at best, and even if he did double his minutes, his spg and bpg wouldnt both be 2 and 2. That's ridiculous. Yeah, put any guy out there who gets plays 20 mpg, and double his minutes. Oh man! His stats must be able to double as well. Are you failing math class, because even in your fantasy where Danny Granger plays 44 mpg .7 and .8 x2 isn't exactly 2 apiece.Now youre just talking out your ass. So the other 3 on the team were being double teamed? Really, I didnt realize that there were 8 people on an NBA court. That is bs. Players rarely get doubled on the perimeter throughout the game anyway. Youre talking out your ass. Take Prince off the Pistons, and put him on a team where he is the #1 or #2 option and he gets 17-18 ppg. He's a good offensive player, and you made an ass out of yourself.Who gives a crap how Tayshaun did against the Pacers?
whoa I think im mixed upim pretty sure you are toookI'll start over witht his aba thingdr jmel danielsrick barrymcginnismoses malonegoshI got myself mixed up funny how similar west and barry can seem when you weren't alive during that era
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>whoa I think im mixed upim pretty sure you are toookI'll start over witht his aba thingdr jmel danielsrick barrymcginnismoses malonegoshI got myself mixed up funny how similar west and barry can seem when you weren't alive during that era</div> No you messed yourself up. You mentioned Jerry West then try and play it off like you didn't say him, you meant Rick Barry. Please Motherf*cker. And how about you start structuring your sentences like a sane person who actually attends school?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Oct 29 2006, 10:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Players rarely get doubled on the perimeter throughout the game anyway.</div>Interestingly enough, one of the rare guys who does and still drops 35 a game isn't very good apparently...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ Oct 29 2006, 10:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No you messed yourself up. You mentioned Jerry West then try and play it off like you didn't say him, you meant Rick Barry. Please Motherf*cker. And how about you start structuring your sentences like a sane person who actually attends school?</div>hey ... you stop the disrespectin :thumbdn1: :thumbdn1: :thumbdn1: this was what 40-50 years ago?I wasn't alive thenI ain't coverin nothin up - I simply confused myself with two great,similar players from 4 decades ago
Wow, it looks like Mr. pacers fan forgot to reply to my post...Come on man, bring it.Wow, it looks like Mr. pacers fan forgot to reply to my post...Come on man, bring it.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I ain't coverin nothin up - I simply confused myself with two great,similar players from 4 decades ago</div> There names are barely similar and then you tried to deny you ever said anything regarding Jerry West. I mean how do you post a rebuttle about Jerry West with a NBA profile of Rick Barry? Quit playing the dumbass card. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>hey ... you stop the disrespectin :thumbdn1: :thumbdn1: :thumbdn1:</div> I'll stop doing a lot of things, but disrespecting you is hardly one of them.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Oct 29 2006, 10:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Oh, I get it, so Danny Granger will play 44 mpg next year, right? No..He will play 30-34 at best, and even if he did double his minutes, his spg and bpg wouldnt both be 2 and 2. That's ridiculous. Yeah, put any guy out there who gets plays 20 mpg, and double his minutes. Oh man! His stats must be able to double as well. Are you failing math class, because even in your fantasy where Danny Granger plays 44 mpg .7 and .8 x2 isn't exactly 2 apiece.Now youre just talking out your ass. So the other 3 on the team were being double teamed? Really, I didnt realize that there were 8 people on an NBA court. That is bs. Players rarely get doubled on the perimeter throughout the game anyway. Youre talking out your ass. Take Prince off the Pistons, and put him on a team where he is the #1 or #2 option and he gets 17-18 ppg. He's a good offensive player, and you made an ass out of yourself.Who gives a crap how Tayshaun did against the Pacers?</div>if you read I said granger has a year under his belt, better conditioning, and higher bball iqwhy wouldn't granger play 40 minutes?who else we got there? rawle marshall - give me a break (see I can't even spell his name right)who said everyone is getting doubleteamed? the person with the ball is getting doubleteamedI would reply to the rest but there were too many big words (I mean little) that yo no comprende)btw - I'm the top math student in by grade - and no bs about my school please<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ Oct 29 2006, 10:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>There names are barely similar and then you tried to deny you ever said anything regarding Jerry West. I mean how do you post a rebuttle about Jerry West with a NBA profile of Rick Barry? Quit playing the dumbass card. I'll stop doing a lot of things, but disrespecting you is hardly one of them.</div>names aren't similar - but games areI dont go my names - I go by gamesfine keep the disrespectin but dont be surprised if I dont reply to a whole lot of the bs you write anymore
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>names aren't similar - but games areI dont go my names - I go by games</div> If you can't distinguish a person's name from one another. Your a lost cause. The fact you searched to show Jerry West played in the ABA by actually searching Rick Barry's profile is disturbing. Justice's claim that you might be causing a ruse for the sake of it is sounding more and more true.
Oh please just shutup and quit trying to make it look like you meant Rick Barry. They are two totally different players who played for two totally differet teams. Do you think were all idiots here. Also I laugh at how much you know about your own team. Danny Granger will play 40 mpg this season? Don't make me laugh. Who else wuld he share minutes with? Well lets see they did just aquire a guy named Al Harrington who also happens to play both the SF and PF positions but he won't be playing at all huh? Of course there is also Josh Powell and Shawne Williams to add tot hat list. Wait to just make yourself look like even more of a dumbass. Plus you said he will double his minutes which is 44 mpg not 40. Wait to screw up the match again smart one. So Tayshaun Prince doesn't normally do well when he plays you guys? Oh yeah actually watch the Pistons please. You have no idea what you are talking about. Tayshaun only gets points off of open dunks? I'm osrry but to average 14 ppg your going to have to score in more ways than getting open dunks. He's a solid shooter and shoots a career 38% from 3 pt range. He also can create for himself and take it to the hoop. Once again watch basketball for once. Oh yeah btw if Granger averages 2 spg and 2 bpg I will send you $500 dollars in the mail.
...Tayshaun can't score? That's ridiculous, he's not putting up eye-popping scoring numbers, but he's also an option behind Sheed, Rip, and Chauncey...Hell, he was drafted partly due to his shooting ability and clutchness...Dude dropped 41 in one game in his last year at Kentucky...
