Lakers vs. Spurs

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  1. illmatic

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    Hey guys, I was driving home from the gym and was listening to AM 570 and a college official called in and he said FANTASTIC no call by the Refs.

    He said the play was a wash because Barry didn't allow Fisher to come down, and by moving to the right before he shot the ball, it became a no call. If he shot the ball as Fisher was coming straight down and Barry went up, then it would have been a foul called.

    He said the refs HATE to make a call at that stage to decide the game and complimented the refs.

    I'm really glad to hear this because I watched the game at the gym and was so HAPPY the Lakers won, but I thought that was a foul and I knew that there would be an * by the W tonight. I figured ESPN would hate like crazy, but now that the college ref said it was a good no call, I feel a lot better.

    Just an FYI so you guys feel better and tell people who think Lakers stole this game that they really didn't.

    ONE MORE GAME AND WE ARE IN THE FINALS, WOOOOOOO!
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (illmatic @ May 28 2008, 12:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Hey guys, I was driving home from the gym and was listening to AM 570 and a college official called in and he said FANTASTIC no call by the Refs.

    He said the play was a wash because Barry didn't allow Fisher to come down, and by moving to the right before he shot the ball, it became a no call. If he shot the ball as Fisher was coming straight down and Barry went up, then it would have been a foul called.

    He said the refs HATE to make a call at that stage to decide the game and complimented the refs.

    I'm really glad to hear this because I watched the game at the gym and was so HAPPY the Lakers won, but I thought that was a foul and I knew that there would be an * by the W tonight. I figured ESPN would hate like crazy, but now that the college ref said it was a good no call, I feel a lot better.

    Just an FYI so you guys feel better and tell people who think Lakers stole this game that they really didn't.

    ONE MORE GAME AND WE ARE IN THE FINALS, WOOOOOOO!
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    Well let's not get crazy though, this was not a Wade-style "asterisk".

    Is what I said about the foul to give true btw?
     
  3. illmatic

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ May 28 2008, 12:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Is what I said about the foul to give true btw?</div>

    I just read this post from LG right before I read yours, and it seems like you were right...

    Thread: The final 4 seconds Spurs lose any way you slice it

    Scenerio 1: With 4+ seconds left, Fisher shoots the ball. It hits the rim and the Spurs knock it out of bounds to give it to the Lakers with a reset shot clock. Kobe takes inbound pass, gets fouled with 2 seconds left, hits both free throws. Spurs down by 4 with 2 seconds left.

    Scenerio 2: A foul is called on Fisher on the last shot. It was a non-shooting foul. The Lakers have a foul to give. The Spurs pass the ball back inbounds with less than a second to play. Game over.

    ^Very true.
     
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    All right, so we had a foul to give. Had the refs called it, the Spurs would have probably had less than 1 second to get a shot off. So that argument is now a moot point
     
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    Haha this is great, Barry was not shooting either.
     
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    Anyone else UTTERLY SHOCKED at Kobe's mismanagement of the clock on that one play? I couldn't believe it, it was one of the rookiest newbie mistakes I've seen Kobe make.

    I'm just glad we got the W man, so glad.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (illmatic @ May 28 2008, 12:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Anyone else UTTERLY SHOCKED at Kobe's mismanagement of the clock on that one play? I couldn't believe it, it was one of the rookiest newbie mistakes I've seen Kobe make.

    I'm just glad we got the W man, so glad.</div>

    Just a bad moment thankfully.
     
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    That college official was brilliant, I was driving home from the Lakers game.

    And the Dodgers fuckin' blow. How is Andruw Jones workin' out for ya?
     
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    Phil is a genius when he diffused the situation by mentioning the clock. He did it so quickly.
     
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    Andruw Jones? He's alright. I'm still hoping he could bounce back.

    Top Reason Why The Angels Blow


    1. Angels "fans" didn't exist before 2002.
     
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    [video=youtube;JvQFQoTOPQ8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvQFQoTOPQ8"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvQFQoTOPQ8[/video]

    That was a block. In addition to the clock.

    [/Johnnie Cochran]
     
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    Official stuff I saw on ESPN:

    Lamar Odom: "What did you see?"

    Reporter: "A possible foul."

    Lamar Odom: "A possible foul? I saw those all night."

    [​IMG]
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ May 28 2008, 01:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Official stuff I saw on ESPN:

    Lamar Odom: "What did you see?"

    Reporter: " A possible foul."

    Lamar Odom: "A possible foul? I saw those all night."

    [​IMG]</div>

    Yeah, LMFAO, saw that too.. Perfect response. Good one LO!
     
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    Shelly Smith also pointed out the Spurs got most of the calls, coming from ESPN that's pretty cool.
     
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    Another BS fact: Udoka has more FTs than Kobe for the series.

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>And in a game when he did not shoot one free throw -- 29 shots with guys hanging all over him and he doesn't shoot one free throw? -- it was Bryant's cool that led to the Lakers cool.

    Two games in San Antonio, one free throw for one of the most consistently fouled men in the NBA, and the fiery Bryant showed none of the temper that could have hurt his team or his game.

    No comment on no fouls?

    "Not without getting fined, no," Bryant said.


    Your philosophy here?

    "Just let it go, nothing you can do about it," Bryant said. "You try to shoot through it and see if you can't make a couple of them."

    The league has obviously decided that Bryant shot too many free throws in the previous two series, and they were going to officiate him differently from others, perhaps ignoring the first bump, and only whistling a complete mauling.

    "It is impossible to take 29 shots and not be fouled, but tonight was one of those exceptions, I guess," Jackson said.</div>

    http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-plasch...5.column?page=2

    Good to see someone call this shit out. I don't want to hear the excuses from other people.
     
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    The Lakers need to shut the **** up. Sasha has no room to complain to the refs. He hasn't done shit in his career, yet he whines like a bitch to the refs. Kobe's been doing it all year (thats the one aspect of his game I can't stand)..and this post season, Gasol has been a little baby, as well.

    Just shut the **** up and play basketball. You got the W, leave it at that. Don't turn the refs against you for the rest of the post-season. They're not stupid, they read these comments and shove it up your asses.

    Kobe and Phil--Shut the **** up and do your job. Close the series out.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Crawford? Except for that last one, Tuesday's whistles mostly favored the Spurs, who shot 26 free throws to the Lakers' 19 ... and who happily watched Bryant go the line zero times. If anyone was unnerved by Crawford's first San Antonio appearance of the playoffs, it was actually Lakers coach Phil Jackson, who was so enraged by the early fouls called on Fisher and Lamar Odom that he complained about the refereeing during his in-game TNT interview between the first and second quarters.

    Asked to explain how San Antonio sliced its early 22-8 deficit to five by quarter's end, Jackson told TNT's Craig Sager: "You want me to be honest with you? The guys with the whistles."</div>

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2008...ersGame4-080527
     
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    Did Barry travel?

    http://i32.tinypic.com/8vvq4m.jpg

    There might be a case.

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>barry catches the ball on a jump stop and has complete control of the ball. that let's him choose either foot to use as a pivot. when he takes that step back with his left foot, he is establishing his right foot as the pivot foot. what that means is that foot CANNOT leave the ground or even move from that spot (though, of course, he can still pivot on it, so long as it stays on that point of the floor) until the ball has left his hands.

    you can clearly see in tnt's replay and in the gif above that prior to barry releasing the ball for his escape dribble, and prior to the contact, he braces with his left foot and lifts his right foot off the ground, TRAVEL.</div>

    From another fan in LG.
     
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    Still cant believe Kobe didnt get to the line all game...

    Where they brainwashed just because popovich and the spurs announced their gameplan to avoid fouling Kobe? I mean, the dude drives in the lane and bangs into 2 or 3 defenders and there's no foul? Not even once? LOL

    The spurs got most of the calls... good thing they decided to give one to us... Finally, a series we can close out at home
     
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    Just watched the replay this morning. That was an ugly non-call but then again, I've always believed that teams need to look at themselves for playing through the majority of the game in a way that allowed it to get to that point in the first place. NBA referees are retarded. Everyone knows that. You can either keep that in mind and make sure you don't put the game in their hands towards the end, or bitch and complain about it after the fact (not saying the Spurs are complaining about it).
     

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