<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Steelerfan_2004)</div><div class='quotemain'>It's ok man, I don't expect everyone to be happy with every decision. I hope you don't take it personally because I like both of you guys and it has nothing to do with that. This was an impartial decision. And once again, feel free to lobby to the league. I will change it if enough people have a problem with the system.</div> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Steelerfan_2004)</div><div class='quotemain'> I am sorry that this is an issue with everyone who requested Gordon, but there's going to be sour grapes from someone regardless of how it is handled. And thanks Kenn, I agree completely, but I just don't want anyone to think I'm partial to any teams here (except my own). I want this to be fair and I don't want anyone to think I'm out to "screw" them.</div> SF, I don't think you were out to screw me or that you didn't like me...my only complaint is that I think the rule is wrong...I thought cuban missile got gordon because he drafted behind me 2 weeks ago...i didn't realize it was because of nedney...but now i really don't like the rule...i think getting first dibs at a starting RB because your K went on IR is not what the spirit of the rule is supposed to be...i was assuming the rule meant you had first dibs at your injured players backup or another player at that same position...again, SF, i am not taking it personally, just voicing my disagreement...
That is certainly something to be addressed. It's unusual that a kicker gets injured so using the IR to pick up Gordon is definitely twisting the rules. But it's how the rules work. If we want to make a rule to say that if your player is injured that you can only pick up a player of the same position, then that's fine. Also, if IR wasn't the issue, Hell's Satan has a higher waiver order than you, so you would still not have Gordon.
And not for anything, Gordon might be completely worthless. Making a huge deal over one player who hasn't been able to stay on any team seems a bit overdramatic don't you think?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Steelerfan_2004)</div><div class='quotemain'>That is certainly something to be addressed. It's unusual that a kicker gets injured so using the IR to pick up Gordon is definitely twisting the rules. But it's how the rules work. If we want to make a rule to say that if your player is injured that you can only pick up a player of the same position, then that's fine. Also, if IR wasn't the issue, Hell's Satan has a higher waiver order than you, so you would still not have Gordon.</div> this is how I thought the rule was stated in the first place...I must've misread something
I agree with the fact that the second coming of Gordon may be overrated, but I have to agree with the need to clarify the rule. I guess all this time I thought I understood but I didn't. I thought if Michael Bennett went down, you would have first crack at an undrafted Onterrio Smith. I didn't realize we would jump positions. It may follow the letter of the law, but it certainly doesn't seem like it should be the spirit of which it was intended. Maybe I am wrong.... Just some thoughts from an innocent bystander who didn't even request Gordon.
I think if we make the rule that you have to pick a player of same position(which i htink we should) to have priority in injury situations. gordon should stand as it is now, because that is the way rule read when he was picked up.
It's definitely a manipulation but it is what it is. As far as backups go, you have first crack at that players back up (if he's not already on someone else's roster) then you have first crack at any other player before regular waiver kicks in.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Steelerfan_2004)</div><div class='quotemain'>And not for anything, Gordon might be completely worthless. Making a huge deal over one player who hasn't been able to stay on any team seems a bit overdramatic don't you think?</div> not trying to be overdramatic....just trying to improve on my 2-12 showing last season... i know it may all be for naught, but so could any draft pick anyone had...you take your chances... SF, i sense a little frustration from you now, and it is understandable...my disagreement has been noted, so, except for discussion regarding tweaking the rule, the gordon matter is finished as far as my team is concerned...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (crazybacon)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Steelerfan_2004)</div><div class='quotemain'>And not for anything, Gordon might be completely worthless. Making a huge deal over one player who hasn't been able to stay on any team seems a bit overdramatic don't you think?</div> not trying to be overdramatic....just trying to improve on my 2-12 showing last season... i know it may all be for naught, but so could any draft pick anyone had...you take your chances... SF, i sense a little frustration from you now, and it is understandable...my disagreement has been noted, so, except for discussion regarding tweaking the rule, the gordon matter is finished as far as my team is concerned...</div> Thanks CB, I appreciate it. I'm a little frustrated because I know that no system is perfect. But at the same time, it's annoying that something like this even has to happen. I just want everyone to enjoy the league and not have too many problems. As for BF1's suggestion, I tend to agree. If you have a player injured, you should only have immediate rights to the same position. Not any player. I like it. What does anyone else think?
I like the suggestion, too. I hate it when the league is so cutthroat that 10 people request a backup as soon as a guy goes down... That happened a few years back when Edgerrin James first got hurt. Five guys put in a request for Rhodes or whoever the backup was before the guy who had James even had a chance to look at his options. It sucked.
it sux but thats the way it goes THE THING THAT PISSES ME OFF!!!! ( i kno it wasnt intentional) but i got a little message saying it went through and requested it about 8 hours before it all happened!!!!!!!!! they should get screwed because u already sent the message! if its ojn my roster ITS TOO LATE in my opinion!
Oh in a perfect world GF1... sorry man, it wasn't right. You know it and I know it. We all want to win, but not at the cost of circumventing the rules.
Whatever man............. whining about it wont change anything so lets drop it... atleast i got eddie kennison(idid get him right)
Jesus. I feel like I've been hung up to swing in the wind here. SF, I know that isn't your intention Bro, so let me clarify a few things... Regarding the waiver wire and the rules for using it, it was made clear by SF in several places on the board, so knowing the rules is pretty easy... And usually a good idea when you play in these things. I even exchanged comments last week with SF on one of the threads on the subject of the IR and how it worked. I wasn't trying to twist any rules or manipulate the system when I put in a request for Gordon. I put in a request for Warner at the same time because I was fully expecting that Gordon wouldn't be available to me. At first I was told he wasn't, and that was fine. Then I was told that he was awarded to me, and that was also fine, surprising, but fine. I didn't do any lobbying or complaining when I was told that Gordon wasn't available. I didn't cite any section of the rules to bolster my case. I figure that it's the Commissioner's rules, and the Commissioner's job to figure these things out. Just so happened that it worked out in my favor this time. And I think that the change in the rule makes sense. I went after Gordon because he was there. He may not even pan out to anything worthwhile. Somehow I'm at the center of a firestorm, and all I did was send an email. I only wrote this because I felt that maybe I was being implicated as an evildoer of sorts. And I'm not. Peace
It's all situational Chip. This isn't or wasn't a blame issue. But the way the rules read, it was your option to get him. And changing the rules in mid-transaction is never a good thing. So we do it the way it was intended, deal with the consequences, and move forward with the correction. Please don't think that this was a situation where it's like "Chip cheated the system to get Gordon." It's not that way. Moving forward, it's going to work better this way. Looking back now is pointless, so relax, enjoy the season, and don't sweat it bro.
I wouldn't worry about it Chip. Anyone who is really angry about it....and worth their weight in the fantasy football world....is just jealous.
Besides, chip, i am the one who would have had the rights under new rules and i am going to win the league regardless so it doesnt really matter.
Whew, reading back on my posts, I may have come off being a little bitter, mean, heartless, as if ff was my life. If so, I apologize to any and all who took it that way. Wasn't intentional, and for all intents and purposes, I had and have no hard feelings toward anyone because of this, or any other, situation. Thanks. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Send Em Back Al)</div><div class='quotemain'>I only wrote this because I felt that maybe I was being implicated as an evildoer of sorts. And I'm not. Peace</div> Chip, Not sure if this was about me, but if so, anything I said was not directed toward you. Good luck.
Hey guys, no worries. I didn't feel that I was under attack, but I did want to put my 2-cents in and explain that I wasn't trying to pull anything, and that there isn't a pact between SF and me. Trust me, I'm the guy in my money league that is always on the lookout to plug holes in the rules before somebody pulls something. Ask Silver & Black Blood. And I've also had to be the guy to make the hard decission that pisses off most of the league. I had to handle something like that a few years ago. One of the guys quit after that season even though we changed the rule from "that point forward".
