Trade Larry Nance Jr traded to Portland

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  1. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Now now now D…..no need to treat forum members different simply based on their post count or what date they joined the forum…… Let’s all show a little respect for each other, and agree that our love for the PINWHEEL is what has brought us together.








    I dare whoever snitched me out to the team, to copy and paste THIS post and send it to my bosses. I DARE you!
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    People in here be hating on CJ, but they only saw the Stotts coached CJ.

    The version of CJ who was coached not to help, not to dig, not to trap, not to play the gaps, not to sag down in helpside D before it's time to rotate.

    Coached to rely on a RETREATING big man to allow midrange shots... Coached NOT to adjust to pick and roll offense...

    Stotts fucking SUCKED at coaching defense and any success we had was despite his coaching.
     
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    there's a Farside cartoon that should fit this really well
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Made me think of this one.

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    As I learned as a child, dares go first. Anyhow, I'm not a not enough of a low life to take you up on that dare and I'd like to know what dickhead would take you up on that.
     
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    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

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    I love your work HCP. Your Highlights are great. Just tell the Man, don't show them during live action. Major Fail. PLEASEEEEEEEE.
     
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    This one was always my favorite!
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Nobody knows more about being boneless than you. #BAM
     
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    I honestly do not believe that. The Blazers have played more or less the same defense philosophy for a long time - and every time the Blazers roster had good defenders and good health - the Blazers were fine (or better) defensively.

    Now, you might tell me that there are better defensive coaches than him and I will absolutely believe it, but when he has to coach a team that features 2 small, minus defenders and still was good defensively (or elite in the right combination) with these 2 in the mix given roster and health - I am going to say that logically, it makes no sense to me that he can not coach defense.

    If you are going to tell me he can not coax better defense from CJ or Dame - maybe, I have no idea how to judge that - as I have no access to the team and what their specific conversations are.

    The only thing I can, without bias, judge - is results, and when the Blazers have good defensive players next to Dame and CJ and health - they have been good defensively under TS.
     
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    :dunno:

    Stotts was horrible at defensive adjustments (adjustments in general).
     
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    the runs made on us without any adjustments was infuriating.
    Also no adjustments on O. How many times have we seen Dame trapped.
    Stotts good coach. takes a great to elite coach to go deep into the playoffs consistently.

    I also think Stotts style wained. Billups fresh breath can possibly be all it really takes to change our game which in turn maximizes our talents and masks our deficiencies.
     
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    That is a valid point and I honestly am not good enough, basketball wise, to comment on this. (I was a decent player at the HS level, broke my ankle in spectacular fashion as a Junior, and all my basketball from that point forward was pretty much as a fan - so I am sure that people that played more and in more advanced situations learned more about the specifics of basketball adjustments than I had).

    But, that, to me, is less defensive coaching, it is game management and personnel management - I suspect that there were other considerations there - more than just defensive decisions (and I understand that you might disagree, but that's my take on it).

    Defensive coaching to me, at least as a numbers guy is looking at the statistics over a large sample size - and when we know that in the season the Blazers had healthy roster with good defensive members on it next to Dame, CJ - the Blazers were more than good enough defensively which tells me that despite the handicap of featuring these 2 smaller guys - over a long season - the defensive scheme the Blazers had that the coaching staff implemented was working and working well.
     
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    It's easy to avoid traps with Dame. GSW was running a 1-2-2 halfcourt trap.

    You flash Nurk to the middle (between the free throw and 3 pointer) give it to him, he turns and faces.

    For being the offensive genius" our offense became exceptionally predictable.

    We had double digit leads in each of those games vs GSW. He and his inability to adjust is why we lost.
     
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    Teams would go on runs when we kept dropping our Center. He NEVER adjusted to that. Ever.
     
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    My thought on why our defense progressively got worse is because the league has drastically shifted towards three point shooting in the past few years. I posted it a while back, but the number of teams shooting more than 20 threes a game has gone from like 1 or 2 to like half the league. Our defense of the three point line is horrible. One of the worst in the league. So I think our defense tanking is a direct result of the league shifting heavily towards three pointers. Stotts system could not adapt to the rest of the league, which is hilarious considering we are one of the teams that takes a ton of threes.
     
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    This is exactly what Stotts did. He looked at the numbers and statistics, used the midrange shot (supposedly the worst shot in basketball but low and behold it's CJ's BEST shot) as a barometer to dictate his ENTIRE defense. And he never adjusted away from it when scoring on us became so predictable. It's why we lost leads to GSW.
     
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    Even if we can verify it, which frankly, I find hard to do, this is again about game management and less about defensive coaching imho.
     
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    Lots of that was with regard to our inability to guard and adjust to the pick and roll. Dropping our center puts a guard in position to find open shooters.

    Stotts. Stotts. Stotts.
     
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    Bruh... Not sure why you're trying to differentiate between the two. I simply gave another deficiency in Stott's coaching.
     

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