LeBron in Boston Game 6 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Kobe in Boston Game 6

stop feeding the troll

 

Exactly. Debate over.

 

Who cares ? We won the title the next year anyways.

 

He got to game 7 against the Celtics.

Lol Debate over, for Bryant. ;]

 

Shape sorry for going off track I just wanted to add something:

Except Antawn Jamison having 11.8 points on 40%, and getting torched for 20 a night, is not part of a good supporting cast. Neither is Mo Williams playing way below his level.

Michael was 28 when he won, and they drafted a hall of famer. I didn't know Mo was on that short list!

Recognize the true reasons the Cavs struggle. Michael routinely hogged the ball more and played less efficiently than King's 09 performance, and his team still won.

He was not consistent that entire year.

Nothing personal Shape:

The year we choked. Very fun and everything but this is the kind of stuff that happens to "losers" right? Not winners.

LeBron was 18, 19, 20 at the start of his career, you can't blame him for that.

It only took 4 years, interesting. Maybe because trading a valuable player in Shaq for Lamar/Butler and getting Pau for nothing gave us an edge.

And Kobe's skills have clearly declined, if you look at the whole year.

Fair analysis of why we lost, Shape. I just thought I needed to address some other stuff.

 

It is kind of humourous that people, who are praising LeBron and saying he wasn't the main reason why the Cavs were defeated, mainly rely on the 'lack of help from supporting cast' argument. Actually it seemed to be Boston's strategy to focus on shutting down Mo and Jamison. And as we can conclude now, they were quite succesful with that. The act of LeBron wasn't helping either as he didn't appear to be his usual self. Indeed, it might not emerge from stats, but his mentality during game 5 and 6 of the Boston series was obviously discouraging.

Many people are saying that LeBron makes his teammates better. Well the situation appears to be contrary in practise. Antawn Jamisoson is quite a considerable example of that.

Unfortunately I have to attest that LeBron is at present the most dominating force in the league, but his mental act in critical moments has to change if he wants to be a winner in this league.

 

Yeah sorry didn't mean to go off topic, you were speaking about something else (sort of). I just highlighted some stuff I wanted to respond to.

Shape, you're making a lot of excuses for why Kobe didn't dominate as an individual. And for that I simply addressed it, I didn't say Kobe was a bad player.

 

38/8/8 last year, what disappeared? LeBron's off-series this year is something Kobe dreams about.

I have addressed this repeatedly, Mo Williams goes from Odom level to Fisher level, and is a poor defender. LeBron had one of the greatest games of all time Game 1 against the Magic and lost. He just wears the wrong jersey.

 

How can he be a winner, if he has not performed at LeBron's level in the post-season, and had bad series more often? He does have better teammates, because LA won 57 games this year with him being injured and OFF. Pau is destroying people also.

Where were all these, "Kobe is a winner" stuff, when we choked like dogs against Boston? I mean seriously. Laker people (in general, not against you Crue) were still saying he's better at that time, just because they felt like it.

Interesting, but Antawn is about to be 34 in a couple of weeks. Maybe playing against KG and bricking open shots is the reason why they lost?

Unfortunately Kobe has choked harder, and Laker fans are conveniently forgetting that. 38-8-8 is not some mediocre series, that's simply ridiculous.

There's nothing Kobe has done over the course of his career, that would make me think he is a better player. Except for some dominating performances in the regular season, 81, 62, but then that's it he's a jump shooter. He's streakier and not as consistent.

 

He needs to bolt!

Unless they sign Bosh/Amare/etc. (his Pau ;]).

 

If he plays with them and doesn't win a ring? Well then he'd be just like Bryant for a little while. Lol.

He wants to be more then that so let's see what happens, i only know what has happened so far I'm not great at predicting. But in general he can win as much as he wants if he chooses the right team.

 

And maybe cry and want out like another player I can think of until a lucky trade fell in his teams lap.

If LeBron had Kobe's teammates he'd have plenty of rings by now. He's the best player in the NBA.

 

Sure it is, but there's other things to consider as well.

Certainly, he needs to take his time with this decision.

 

Easy to say, totally different thing to prove....

Kobe knows how to win, and has that killer instinct, while lebron, not so much