OT LeBron James said Kyle Rittenhouse should 'knock it off' after the teen cried during murder trial

Good grief, do you really think that? A politicians job is to get elected/reelected and in this country you can't do that without a whole lot of money to run ads for yourself on TV & social media... thats not an opinion. The Supreme Court created this money dependent dynamic with Buckley v Valeo & Citizens United decisions among others. A vast majority of Americans are for all sorts of gun reform laws, but the NRA puts it's considerable funds (including Russian laundered $) against anyone who backs doing so.

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If someone points a gun at you, they are breaking the law. According to multiple eyewitnesses & photographic evidence, the defendant did exactly that in the lead up to the melee.

In closing arguments, prosecutor Thomas Binger said Rittenhouse was a “wannabe soldier” and was “looking for trouble that night.” Binger repeatedly showed the jury drone video that he said depicted Rittenhouse pointing the AR-style weapon at demonstrators. “This is the provocation. This is what starts this incident,” the prosecutor declared. He told the jury: “You lose the right to self-defense when you’re the one who brought the gun, when you are the one creating the danger, when you’re the one provoking other people.”

https://apnews.com/article/kyle-rit...sha-homicide-a5ee515a50f77ea4993bf7176859ef57

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If that evidence actually exists and is discernable, and he actually did advance on them first with his gun drawn I'd definitely support sending him to prison.

 

Do I believe that people vote however the NRA tells them? Yes, absolutely.

I didn't say citizens united was a good thing. Just that in the case of the NRA I'm not sure there was enough money involved to make as big of an impact as their voice and the votes they control.

 

If you're in an area where hunting is allowed kids can carry guns in Oregon as well.
But they have to have a hunting license which requires a hunters safety course, including gun safety.

But in Oregon you aren't allowed to be hunting after dark, so you would not be allowed to carry loaded, from my recollection... It's actually been a while since I have been hunting.

 

How can you possibly know what somebody is going to do with something they buy from you? 99% of guns sold are never used in any crime, let alone to kill somebody.

This makes absolutely no sense. Am I responsible if I sell a car to somebody who runs over a crowd of people? What about fertilizer, if somebody makes a bomb?

I'm sorry, but that's completely unreasonable.

 

Welcome to Wisconsin I guess...

 

Yeah, if we really wanted to solve this problem to the best of our abilities we'd address it reasonably at a national level. But neither side wants to be reasonable so this is what we get.

No matter what law you have, if a 17 year old with no priors defends themselves from armed adult attackers the 17 year old is going to get off 95% of the time. Unless there is very good evidence that the 17 year old was actively the aggressor the kid is going to get the benefit of the doubt. Unless they kill a cop.

 

That's just not true though. Every gun show I've ever been to requires a background check to sell a firearm. That background check prevents gun shows from selling (at least, hand guns) to out of state buyers.

 

100% true. The gun show loophole is old news and background checks have been required at them for quite some time now. And buying out of state hasn’t been a thing since probably before I was born.

 

Open season is in liberal-run cities across the nation where criminals aren’t punished for committing crimes, not in Wisconsin.

 

Ok but let’s make sure if “hunting” is the excuse for having the gun that person is in the forest/area for animal hunting, not in a street full of people.