Legit game changers to put Portland into contention

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    Pinwheel1 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah he is not worth the max. But I can see his point. Who played better for the Cavs last year when healthy? PF Kevin Love who is getting the max, or PF Tristan Thompson who is not?
     
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    I know that the OP doesn't care about realistic scenarios, but to me there needs to be SOME ray of hope or it's a useless exercise. Under no circumstances does LBJ walk through that door.

    The completely-unrealistic-but-could-actually-happen scenario is well known:
    Trade for Boogie. With Boogie and Dame in place, we get on Durant's radar, who promptly signs with us.
     
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    How many posters in here do you think actually don't want Boogie? I'm just disagreeing with giving the farm for him
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    The OP (me), is giving an example of players you would trade the farm for. Most likely all of them could not be traded for, which is why any team would trade the farm for them.

    Trading the farm for a player like Boogie is a huge gamble because he's not at the level of players like LBJ, Durant, CP3, Curry, etc.
     
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    If you could get Cousins without completely giving up the farm, then it could certainly help in landing or developing a final piece.

    If you were really getting Cousins, I guess you could give up a combination of CJ, Leonard, Plumlee, Vonleh, and this year's pick. It would be nice to keep either Leonard or Vonleh to play next to him though.
     
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    That's the point I'm trying to make. If it requires CJ, Leonard, Plume, Vonleh and the first rounder, then I think it's a huge mistake. IF Boogie is available, then he created such discord to the Kings's franchise, that he's at "Fire Sale" level. That means teams can get him at a discount. If it requires all those players you mentioned, then he's realistically not available.
     
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    I was typing the same time you were, and came up with a similar conclusion. I think it would certainly be worth trading the pick, Vonleh (although I like him) and CJ (I like him too). That would still leave you with a lot of talent left to develop, but a very strong starting core. I may have rose colored glasses on, but I think that might be interesting to the Kings unless they really want to win now (three lottery picks).

    Dame/Frazier/Pressey
    Henderson/Crabbe
    Aminu/Harkless
    Leonard/Davis/Alexander
    Cousins/Plumlee/Kaman

    That looks like a nicely balanced team.
     
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    IDK,
    Dame/Crabbe/Aminu/Davis/Boogie
    with Hendo/Harkless coming off the bench looks very good to me.
     
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    That would be called a good gamble that's never going to happen.
     
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    That being said, that is what "trading the farm" for Boogie looks like.
     
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    Definitely able to get behind that
     
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    Vonleh, CJ, Leonard, Plumlee and our first rounder
     
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    Who woulda thought that Mags of all people would be the one that has a firm grasp on the situation!?!
    (Just ribbin' ya!)
     
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    Hahaha touché
     
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    That's the thing though. Players on that level are untouchable.
     
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    Which is why u bet the farm on them. You don't with a player like Boogie
     
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    you don't get it. Our farm is being overvalued. And you can't bet on someone when the other team would never move him. The fact that youre bringing up those guys names saying we should bet the farm on them makes you seem a little delusional.
     
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    Our farm is not over valued.

    All the players you mentioned were lotto picks and you are even willing to trade our next lotto pick too! Lol. But you trade em like they are 35 year old role players. I think you way overvalue Boogie and it's not even close
     
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    Sorry dude. I guess the best NBA center isnt worth a bunch of could-bes.

    I feel like, if someone presented you with this option before they acquired these players, you would've taken Boogie.

    It's just like how everyone hated the Batum trade at first, but then everyone drank the Vonleh coolaid and all of a sudden, they're sure that he will become an all star.
     
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    Reasons you don't trade the farm for Boogie:
    1) he has been a bit of a head case (more than a bit at times); and
    2) Kings have not won 30 or more games since he has been on the team.

    I would trade a lot of value for him, but there is a big risk if you trade away too much talent you could end up becoming the Kings.
     
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