Dump only so many of these mid-rounders will actually turn into anything, so losing a 3rd to be able to dump off Girardi's boneheaded contract is an easy one. I'd put Gropp and the dmen we've acquired in the last few weeks ahead of some of those guys. Shest will probably be our goalie, Graves and Day/Zborvisky look like NHL dmen but some of the others are crapshoots. Plus with having a 1st this year that's probably another impact person eventually.
Agreed, and I actually think you are making the exact point of why I would deal a 3rd or 4th round pick to get out of Girardi's contract fully. Clark is a great drafter. We have signed a bunch of good college kids. We have good youth. Getting rid of a terrible 5.5 cap hit fully is HUGE for this team. We can disagree on this, that is fair. Truth is no clue if what I am suggesting is even possible. But if it was I'd jump on it to clear 5.5 mill for the next 3 years.
Can't disagree. I just think I could see a guy like him retiring more than some other guys. But of course that money is huge. Maybe he retires and takes a job in the organization in 3 or 4 years...like Drury....
You can't give away draft picks. Period, when you have lots of high priced players. The only way this team will be competitive with big salaries they have is to keep getting young guys in there who are cheap. Girardi is not a problem on a buyout. So you take up 2.5 million for 4-6 years. Big deal. You can easily have Graves play at less than that for 3-4 years. It's not a big deal. No reason to give up the pick for a simple buyout. There is safety in numbers with picks and a top scout. More picks Clark has, more young talent he will find. In 3 years, Skjei will be asking for 6.5 million. Zibanejad will ask for 5+. Fast will be asking for 2.5. Lindberg maybe 3. McDonagh for 7. Miller for 5. Hayes if he is here for 5. You have to have young, cheap, guys who can play coming in all the time.
I agree that a buyout of Girardi isn't a big deal for having a few years of 2.5 and 1.1 on the cap and that's the way they should go. I think unless you offer a 1st or 2nd which i'm not sure i would, that it is going to be really hard to move him.
We save 2.9, 1.9, 1.9 over the next 3 years. Which means 2.6, 3.6, and 3.6 mill of dead space. And for that you get 3 extra years with a 1.1 cap hit/dead space. Doesn't seem very appealing to me. Two years of 3.6 mill in dead space...yeah we can do better.
Staal should actually be considering retirement as it seems some of his past issues are limiting his effectiveness.
Yeah i hear you guys, it's alot, but i just have a hard time seeing a team taking that contract for less than a late 1st.
Pure speculation out of thin air 71. Not saying anyone will take his contract, but who knows. None of us knows. There were 3 or 4 concussed players dealt over the past 2 or 3 years, who thought those contracts could be moved, but they were.
The more you look at those numbers the more you say what do we gain by buying Girardi out. Years 2 and 3 we save under 2 mill each season...2 mill is nothing really...maybe a 3rd pair dman or 4th line forward...for that we get three extra years of a 1.1 mill cap charge. Not sure the "savings" is worth it.
Plus, you people think that a team out there will say I want an old defenseman with a horrible contract for a third round pick? That's not going to happen. The Rangers will probably buy him out. Or, take the second option and put him in the minors and just eat the contract for 2 more years, play a kid for cheap then buy him out.
Gorton has his work cut out for him with Girardi/Staal trying to move one. Who knows what can be done. Girardi's NTC is limited this summer, so we will be able to deal him to 1/2 the league. Will anyone want him even with a sweetener. Don't know what will happen, but I do think/hope we'll see a few bigger moves this summer. Stepan needs to be a top candidate to move before his NTC kicks in. That one should be very doable.
Another good article by Brooks. He has been spot on recently. A lot of good stuff in here that makes perfect sense. Also shows the Rangers are not in a bad spot. Have some youth. Good depth upfront. Need to fix the D, especially adding a top pair RD to play with McDonagh. Then have Skjei/Smith as the 2nd pair. That would be a heck of a top 4. And says one of Girradi/Staal has to go. 100% spot on. No way both can be back...no way. http://nypost.com/2017/05/11/whats-next-for-rangers-position-by-position-look-at-roster/
Stepan for Trouba or Brodin makes so much sense. Maybe some other pieces on both sides, but the base of Stepan for one of those two really makes sense. And both those teams will be looking to make some changes, especially the Wild.
Interesting that he dosen't feel Shatt is a real possibility here. I guess if they being back Smith it would make it even tougher. Trading Stepan with a pick or prospect for Trouba/Brodin is something they should explore for sure. I also agree that if a buyout happens Staal should be the one even with a few years extra. Don't see any way they deal Miller or Kreider. Klein you probably could grab a 4th/5th at the draft.
I won't speculate too much on what it would take to make this deal or that deal, we have no clue, but what I will say is I do believe it is an either or situation with Shatt or Smith. Cannot see both at all. Wouldn't want both for what it will most likely cost. If Shatt wants 6 mill + I much rather have Smith in the 4's, and it isn't that close to me. For 1.8 mill +/- less that's a no brainer move. Only way I want Shatt is if he takes in the 5.7 range tops on a NY discount. I wouldn't go more than 5.5 to 5.7 for him. As for Stepan, the more I think about it, he should be the # 1 guy who gets dealt. We have Zib and Hayes at C. Stepan cannot win a faceoff and would be a better wing for us. His NTC kicks in July 1. He absolutely will have value. We have good young depth upfront. We need a top RD badly. He is the chip I'd play to add that RD. Seems so logical...maybe that's why it won't happen.... In my head I now want two things this summer for sure. One of Staal/Girardi gone. Stepan dealt (hopefully in a package for a top RD). From there we move forward, but I want the baseline to be those two things happening, and I will be disappointed if they do not.
