Call me crazy, but I wouldn't mind trading Luke Walton, Vladimir Radmanovic, Chris Mihm, and Coby Karl for Lebron James
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lakerman34 @ Jun 20 2008, 12:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Luke Walton is THE WORST player on the team. I wouldn't mind trading him and Vlad Rad, as long as we get a SOLID backup SF, supposing Ariza is officially Kobe's back up. I also wouldn't mind getting rid of Farmar if we get a promising young player for him. I know DFish isn't going anywhere, but he pissed me off SO much during the finals, it would be nice to get a PG who plays defense the right way (not with his hands). I wouldn't mind an LO+Farmar for Iggi+Andre Miller swap.</div> So you want to trade junk for a solid player? Not happening. You really need to realize this. AT whoever suggested that ridiculous 6ers trade: Iggy would be the second best player on the Lakers, if that happened, and it wouldn't even be close.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#1_Yinka_Dare_Fan @ Jun 20 2008, 01:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lakerman34 @ Jun 20 2008, 12:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Luke Walton is THE WORST player on the team. I wouldn't mind trading him and Vlad Rad, as long as we get a SOLID backup SF, supposing Ariza is officially Kobe's back up. I also wouldn't mind getting rid of Farmar if we get a promising young player for him. I know DFish isn't going anywhere, but he pissed me off SO much during the finals, it would be nice to get a PG who plays defense the right way (not with his hands). I wouldn't mind an LO+Farmar for Iggi+Andre Miller swap.</div> So you want to trade junk for a solid player? Not happening. You really need to realize this. AT whoever suggested that ridiculous 6ers trade: Iggy would be the second best player on the Lakers, if that happened, and it wouldn't even be close. </div> Silly Yinka, no way he's better than Kobe!
Jordan Farmar is a LEGIT STARTER in this league, and LO SHINED in his years playing in the East. This trade isn't as farfetched as you are all making it out to be, but is still very unlikely. Iggi would suffer in the west w/ his scoring ability, but playing for the Lakers, he would be a good defensive player. LO would help the young Sixers running game, and they have a good shooting PG in Farmar. For Philly: PG Jordan Farmar SG Louis Williams SF Thaddeus Young PF Lamar Odom C Samuel Dalmbert This is a VERY young time with HIGH potential. With the team they had, the players do individually have promise, but their veteran leadership sucks. I HONESTLY think Farmar would excel much more than Andre Miller in Philly, and LO would help their running game and their passing offense.
iggy > odom miller > farmar explain to me how that works? Miller Iggy Young Evans Dalembert with Williams off the bench is better than that lineup you said.
Please. Stop. This post is a joke. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lakerman34 @ Jun 20 2008, 04:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Jordan Farmar is a LEGIT STARTER in this league, and LO SHINED in his years playing in the East. This trade isn't as farfetched as you are all making it out to be, but is still very unlikely. Iggi would suffer in the west w/ his scoring ability, but playing for the Lakers, he would be a good defensive player. LO would help the young Sixers running game, and they have a good shooting PG in Farmar.</div> Jordan Farmar is not a starter in this league, and nowhere near a LEGIT STARTER. He struggled at times being our backup point guard, how the hell do you expect him to take over a starting role and succeed? He's not even better than Derek Fisher, who is nothing more than an "average" starting point guard. "This trade isn't as farfetched as you are all making it out to be" It's not farfetched, it's borderline impossible. The Sixers consider Andre Iguodala as the face of their franchise. He is already one of the top defensive players in the league, and his offensive game has developed tremendously as well. Not to mention he is still only 24 years of age, he has plenty of time to improve his game, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him play in the Allstar game a couple of years from now. Andre Miller is one of the key reasons for the Sixer's surprising season. Most people thought the Sixers would be heading to the lottery, nobody expected them to make the playoffs, let alone hang in with Detriot in a seven game series. Andre Miller averaged 17 points, 4 rebounds, and 7 assists last season. Don't tell me Jordan Farmar can come even close to those numbers, because he can't. "LO would help the young Sixers running game" And Andre Miller doesn't? The Sixers already have a great running game, thanks to Andre Miller. You take Miller out of the equation, the Sixers are no longer a playoff team, they are lottery bound. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>For Philly: PG Jordan Farmar SG Louis Williams SF Thaddeus Young PF Lamar Odom C Samuel Dalmbert</div> Um, PG: Andre Miller SG: Andre Iguodala SF: Thaddeus Young PF: Reggie Evans C: Samuel Dalembert Yeah, I'll take my chances with this lineup any day of the week. Jordan Farmar is nowhere near starting material, he'll get eaten alive. That lineup you proposed wouldn't even sniff the playoffs in the weak east. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>This is a VERY young time with HIGH potential. With the team they had, the players do individually have promise, but their veteran leadership sucks. I HONESTLY think Farmar would excel much more than Andre Miller in Philly, and LO would help their running game and their passing offense.</div> First of all, the current Sixers are a very young team with very high potential. Like I already mentioned, Andre Iguodala is only 24 years of age, still 3 to 4 years away from his prime. Lamar Odom is what, 28 or 29 years old? He hasn't improved any aspect of his game since his rookie season. You mention that the Sixers veteran leadership sucks. So you replace their veteran starting point guard, Andre Miller, with a 21 year old second year backup point guard. That's a joke. And don't even begin telling me Lamar Odom is going to lead that team. "I HONESTLY think Farmar would excel much more than Andre Miller in Philly" So you're saying Farmar will lead this team into the playoffs, and average 17 points, 4 rebounds, and 7 assists per game. Lay off the pipe
Hey, just expressing what I think, you disagree, that's fine, but I think that trade is still legit. Maybe I am undervaluing Andre Miller, but you guys are overvaluing Iguodala. He isn't as special a player as he is hyped up to be, if you just watched him against the Pistons, you'd see why. I live in PA and don't miss a lot of Sixers games, and I think the Sixers would be fine w/ just the simple core of Louis Williams and Thaddeus Young down the line. Maybe we need to give them a pick or a calary space player or cash in addition for that trade to work, let them keep that 2nd rd. pick, but I'm sticking to my guns guys, and I still like that trade even from the Sixers's perspective.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lakerman34 @ Jun 20 2008, 08:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Hey, just expressing what I think, you disagree, that's fine, but I think that trade is still legit. Maybe I am undervaluing Andre Miller, but you guys are overvaluing Iguodala. He isn't as special a player as he is hyped up to be, if you just watched him against the Pistons, you'd see why. I live in PA and don't miss a lot of Sixers games, and I think the Sixers would be fine w/ just the simple core of Louis Williams and Thaddeus Young down the line. Maybe we need to give them a pick or a calary space player or cash in addition for that trade to work, let them keep that 2nd rd. pick, but I'm sticking to my guns guys, and I still like that trade even from the Sixers's perspective.</div> The Sixers are my second team (I lived near Philly for a couple of years), and I can tell you that the trade request you proposed is so ridiculous that their GM wouldn't even bother picking up the phone. And yes I saw Iguodala against the Pistons, what's your point? You really think Lamar Odom could have done any better? And I don't think you remember, but even Kobe looked like crap against the Pistons a couple of years ago in the Finals. Kobe looked like crap against the Celtics as well. But you don't judge a player based off of one series, do you? Lamar's value is nowhere near Iguodala's. And don't even bother to compare Jordan Farmar to Andre Miller, because that's just a joke. If you really think this trade even has the slightest chance of going down, then I don't know what to tell you
Chill out, dude. Doesn't really matter anyways, Kupchak says LO probably isn't going anywhere. But, just for conversational purposes, Tayshaun Prince is on the market...........would you guys trade LO for him?
Andre Miller is 33 years old, but is a $10M expiring contract. Miller WAS available this season, but I don't see Philly is in dire need of ridding themselves of him and his contract this year.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lakerman34 @ Jun 21 2008, 11:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Chill out, dude. Doesn't really matter anyways, Kupchak says LO probably isn't going anywhere. But, just for conversational purposes, Tayshaun Prince is on the market...........would you guys trade LO for him?</div> In a heart beat. But the Pistons wouldn't do it.
The LO + Farmar for Iggy + Miller is a bad deal for the 76ers. Mainly because Iggy is young and their best player, as well as they made the playoffs, so why change your best player. Also Igudoala will put people in the seats more than Odom would. Iggy has won the dunk competition and is probably one of the better dunkers in the game. Would they do Miller for Farmar + Vujacic?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lavalamp @ Jun 21 2008, 12:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The LO + Farmar for Iggy + Miller is a bad deal for the 76ers. Mainly because Iggy is young and their best player, as well as they made the playoffs, so why change your best player. Also Igudoala will put people in the seats more than Odom would. Iggy has won the dunk competition and is probably one of the better dunkers in the game. Would they do Miller for Farmar + Vujacic?</div> That's the best rebuttal I heard about my "ridiculous" trade yet. You are absolutely correct, when it is all said and done, it's about getting fans in their seats, I shoulda realized this, and Odom wouldn't do it as well as Iggi, even if Odom made them a better team. I don't want to get rid of Vujacic. I love Shi-Shi.
Um, no. There's more to why the trade is ridiculous than "putting fans in the seats." Take off the homer glasses please
