I'd definitely give up Ike or Biedrins but I wouldnt trade both. I wouldn't trade Monta for pretty much anything, no point in shipping him off with such a small salary and high potential. Hell, I'd gladly give up one of Ike/Biedrins plus our 1st round pick as well as Murphy, Fusher, Pietrus, or whoever else is in the trade but I'd have a hard time giving up 2 of our 3 promising young players.
That would be amazing if Mullin could get JO but as I've said before I'm not getting my hopes up about a blockbuster trade. I'll be surprised if we can get a Magloire or PJ Brown type player. How about Pietrus, either Murphy or Foyle, and our first round pick for PJ Brown and JR Smith?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Run BJM:</div><div class="quote_post">That would be amazing if Mullin could get JO but as I've said before I'm not getting my hopes up about a blockbuster trade. I'll be surprised if we can get a Magloire or PJ Brown type player. How about Pietrus, either Murphy or Foyle, and our first round pick for PJ Brown and JR Smith?</div> I'd actually want Magloire, he's put up good numbers with Baron and is an infinite times better than Foyle. Reason why I'd want Magloire is because we'd have a bigger chance of keeping Ike and Ellis. Anyway, how about a trade and get a swingman from Atlanta? They got a roster full of them.
I think the Warriors can accomplish this trade and also get rid of Fisher by including a 3rd team into the mix. A lot of teams inquired about Fisher during the trade deadline and I still think Houston would take him. <u>Warriors Incoming</u> Jermaine O'neal <u>Warriors Outgoing</u> Derek Fisher 2006 1st Round Pick Mike Dunleavy Jr. Ike Diogu <u>Rockets Incoming</u> Derek Fisher 2006 1st Round Pick (GSW) <u>Rockets Outgoing</u> Stromile Swift <u>Indiana Incoming</u> Stromile Swift Mike Dunleavy Jr. Ike Diogu <u>Indiana Outgoing</u> Jermaine O'neal <u>Warriors Roster Post Trade</u> PG - B. Diddy SG - JRich SF - Pietrus PF - Murphy C - O'neal
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AnimeFANatic:</div><div class="quote_post">I'd actually want Magloire, he's put up good numbers with Baron and is an infinite times better than Foyle. Reason why I'd want Magloire is because we'd have a bigger chance of keeping Ike and Ellis. Anyway, how about a trade and get a swingman from Atlanta? They got a roster full of them.</div> I'd love to get Magloire as well but there may be afew problems. One is that we'd probably still have Foyle but he'd be on the bench which will cause Bierins get less minutes. I guess we could either start both Mags and Foyle or start Magloire and Ike with Foyle as backup C and Biedrins as backup PF (assuming we deal Murphy to get MAgloire). Also Magloire would command alot of money once his contract is up, if we pay him we'll have just another large contract but with guys like Biedrins and Ike needing paychecks in the next few seasons. I'd love to get Josh Smith from Atlanta, I'm not sure what they would want in return for him but I'd gladly give up our 1st round pick as well as pretty much anyone except Biedrins/Ike/Monta/J-Rich/Baron.
Well theres nothing we can do about Foyle, no one will touch his contract so he'll just have to expire with us. In that case, I say let him rot on the bench and have Magloire start and Biedrins back up. or we can have it like this: Magloire, Foyle Ike, Biedrins Assuming we move Murphy.
Thats an interesting scenario Shape. The rockets and Warriors would accept but I doubt Indiana wants Dunleavy now that hes getting paid 9 mils a year and his value is at an all time low. If Indy were willing to take Murphy then I tihnk they'd rather do a Murphy, Biedrins/Ike, Pietrus, and GSW 1st round pick for Jermaine and whoever they want us to take that will work salary cap wise.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">I think the Warriors can accomplish this trade and also get rid of Fisher by including a 3rd team into the mix. A lot of teams inquired about Fisher during the trade deadline and I still think Houston would take him. <u>Warriors Incoming</u> Jermaine O'neal <u>Warriors Outgoing</u> Derek Fisher 2006 1st Round Pick Mike Dunleavy Jr. Ike Diogu <u>Rockets Incoming</u> Derek Fisher 2006 1st Round Pick (GSW) <u>Rockets Outgoing</u> Stromile Swift <u>Indiana Incoming</u> Stromile Swift Mike Dunleavy Jr. Ike Diogu <u>Indiana Outgoing</u> Jermaine O'neal <u>Warriors Roster Post Trade</u> PG - B. Diddy SG - JRich SF - Pietrus PF - Murphy C - O'neal</div> I think Murphy will just end up causing O'neil to get in foul trouble. How about this lineup? PG - Baron SG - Jrich SF - FA PF - Taft C - O'neil I would sure love to keep Ike though... He can pass and has court sense unlike Murphy. Some guys are wide open and he just ignores them. We need a passer because I don't think much of Jermaine O'neil as a guy that would fuel the perimeter game much. He's not Duncan or Webber or any of these truely elite power forwards that make others better when they pass the ball from inside. In fact O'neil is too much like a lightweight center to actually be a power forward.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Run BJM:</div><div class="quote_post">Thats an interesting scenario Shape. The rockets and Warriors would accept but I doubt Indiana wants Dunleavy now that hes getting paid 9 mils a year and his value is at an all time low. If Indy were willing to take Murphy then I tihnk they'd rather do a Murphy, Biedrins/Ike, Pietrus, and GSW 1st round pick for Jermaine and whoever they want us to take that will work salary cap wise.</div> I don't know, Bird loves his game, and I don't see them keeping Peja. Dunleavy is younger, and he will improve in Indiana with Carlisle coaching him. I think the slowed down tempo and halfcourt sets Indiana runs, fits Dunleavy a lot better. He also won't have to worry about being exposed on defense, because Indiana plays great team defense and have perfect defensive rotations. PG - Tinsley / Johnson SG - SJax / Sarunas SF - Dunleavy / Croshere PF - Granger / Diogu C - Harrison / Swift / Foster The Pacers have a lot of options with this roster and young talent.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">I would sure love to keep Ike though... He can pass and has court sense unlike Murphy. Some guys are wide open and he just ignores them.</div> I disagree about Ike being a good passer. Granted I haven't seen him play all that much this season, but it seems like once he gets the ball, all he's looking to score. The thing with Ike is that he scores inside and shoots a higher percentage and can get to the line a lot, unlike Murphy. I'm worried that teams will adjust to Ike and make him less effective next season and I'm also worried about his height disadvantage on defense.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Gohn:</div><div class="quote_post">I disagree about Ike being a good passer. Granted I haven't seen him play all that much this season, but it seems like once he gets the ball, all he's looking to score. The thing with Ike is that he scores inside and shoots a higher percentage and can get to the line a lot, unlike Murphy. I'm worried that teams will adjust to Ike and make him less effective next season and I'm also worried about his height disadvantage on defense.</div> Ike is pretty unselfish actually, but I think it's because he doesn't know the offense or the point guards are'nt calling out plays. Plus, he's used to being the go-to scorer for his old team and actually is the go-to scorer in the paint. Ike sure was valuable this season, but I think his minutes were limited because he didn't know the plays most of the time. That and Fisher/Baron hardly call anything out. Ike's D is a lot better than Murphy that's for sure. At least he blocks shots and isn't afraid of a little contact on defense.
