Sounds like it. Though I've not seen anything official. But maybe there wouldn't be anything official?
Hypothetically, what if Jody agrees to sell the team to an investor group led by Carmelo and including Dame? Can Dame play as part-owner? Dame agrees to remain a Blazer and after four years he signs a new contract at a low salary, opening up opportunity to re-sign our young players of today. He retires a Blazer and part owner of the team…with Melo and other investors. Moda Center renamed after Dame’s dealership of course. perhaps Phil Knight fronts the big dollars and is majority owner for the next five years or so?
wasn't that apart of the new CBA, that players could invest into teams now as current players? i remember someone saying it was more geared towards the WNBA teams but never remember reading much else bout it.
If it's true, Dame's marital situation could be affecting his trade demands. Anyone that's divorced can attest to how much it can mess with your mind.
Not a great time to make huge decisions imo. Need's to be a cooling off and clear the mind period. And when kids are involved best to be composed and near by.
Response was to him saying "Nobody is saying Cronin Lied". It's been said and it still get said. I personally don't know one way or another. Seems like a pretty far fetched idea to me. A GM cannot afford to have a reputation of lying to his best players. Even Dame has come out and said Jody has never treated him badly. I assume that would include Joe?
People are throwing the term "liar" arround way too loosely. While I can't rule out that he did lie, I also can't prove he did. To call him a liar for these statements would require knowledge that he never intended/attempted to do the things he said he wanted to do. None of us have that knowledge. Now, if people want to say that Cornin failed at accomplishing the objective(s) he stated, I think that's totally reasonable.
what was he supposed to say? "Our last gm and players fucking blow and no one wants to trade them for an all star?" There is such a thing as tact in public speaking etc.
Yeah, maybe in public but I think the conjecture that Joe almost verified in his presser in Vegas is that Joe told Dame to sit when we still had a realistic shot at the play-ins and definitely would have had a shot if we'd kept Hart, and he told Dame to do that so we could get a better pick that he would use to get Dame win now help. I mean Joe really did pretty much confirm that at his presser and said that he failed to do so and he understands why Dame is where he's at. I don't think it was a lie, I think that Joe (like this front office going back to Olshey has done many times) overpromised to Dame and then the situation dictated them going in a direction opposite of the way they told Dame they would go. That's not a lie, it's a lack of foresight. That being said after it happening to Dame so many times, I can see why he would see it as a betrayal.
I think that Joe told Dame that getting a better pick will help the team have assets to make the team better so they could compete. The problem is that Dame disagrees with the FO about keeping the picks as the better way of getting better, which basically comes down to Dame GM'ing vs Cronin GM'ing. Having seen what the Blazers did trying to make moves around the edges in the past and how well it worked, I am much more comfortable with Dame playing and a GM GM'ing.
Since this is the point of your entire post - You don't have the knowledge of no one having "that knowledge". You don't know what everyone else knows.
Cronin will not give away Dame for poo poo platter because this is a career-defining moment for him as a GM
I'm open to changing my mind. If anyone can provide proof he lied, I will move off my stance that we don't know if he lied. Again, I'm not saying he didn't lie, he's never lied, etc... I just don't have proof to call him a liar at this point.
He confirmed that was the goal. And with the 7th or 8th pick that might have been possible... But there was nothing available for the 3 that would have been worth giving up a player like Scoot for. That's not a lie. That is a plan not working out.
The 3 pick pushes Portland into rebuilding. Dame doesn't want to do that at this stage in his career. I don't think he necessarily disagrees that rebuilding is the right thing for Portland to do at this point. He just doesn't want to be a part of a rebuild.
I also think it was realistic for Joe to expect Lillard, Goodwin and the Dame camp to keep their damn mouths shut. But Dame had to go on his world tour and discuss his demand and the separate conversation he would have if his demands were not met. He killed the value of the 3rd pick and any other asset Portland had/has. Just like he has killed his trade value with his ridiculous trade demand to Miami only. Joe did not lie, he just didn't't expect Dame to do him dirty. Dame orchestrated this. Goodwin let the cat out of the bag when he had the conversation with that writer, Arnold is it?
