Zombie Lillard is playing like a bum

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  1. Blazers1977

    Blazers1977 Well-Known Member

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    yeah I’m sure dames .190 assisted 3P rate has nothing to do with the 40 foot 3s he hucks up 5 seconds into the shotclock.
     
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    What in the actual fuck are you saying? Are you actually trying to say that your eye test is more accurate than actual data that is kept track of?
     
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    AldoTrapani Well-Known Member

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    Bro he’s the best player on his team yes he will be game planned for lol
     
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    Mannn
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Exactly my point.
     
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    I don't think it does to any significant level because he's been shooting those long three's for at least 3 seasons now. My guess is that he probably shot almost as many last season as he has this season; or at least his rate of 27-35' shots is about the same, but his assisted rate has dropped from 46% last year to 19% this season. Unless you have data showing otherwise, I'd inclined to believe what I just said

    my take: there are probably a few reasons why it has dropped, but I'm assuming two main reasons why it's so much lower this season than the last 2 seasons:

    * one is that the combination of Turner, Napier, and Curry were much better than Bazemore, Simons, and Hezonja at setting up open shots for teammates. Olshey chose a significant downgrade in facilitation options this year in his zeal to secure minutes for CJ and Simons and a point-forward role for Hezonja. It was dumb

    * the other is that Nurkic and Meyers were much better passers than Whiteside and Skal, and were also a lot more familiar with the offense and Dame. I think that notion is supported by the fact that Dame's 3pt assisted rate last season dropped from 46% to 32% in the playoffs after Nurkic was out

    the goal should have been to raise Dame's assisted rate from 46% to 60% instead of cutting it down to 40% of last season. But there were some major miscalculations boiling out of the GM's office last summer
     
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    I’m saying your comments are statistically illiterate and demonstrate an inability to interpret “actual data.” You’re trying to say that averaging half more an assist per game, while playing more minutes, “proves” x, y, and z. It “proves” nothing of the sort. That’s not how any of this works, at all.

    To answer your question. Yes, even my “eye test” is superior to you babbling about random factoids and tiny margins that demonstrate nothing. Take a logic class.
     
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    Ah yes, if you hear an inconvenient explanation that undermines your hypothesis, just dismiss it outright. Very scientific. Wave your hands a bit and then say the burden of proof has magically shifted. That will do it.

    Dame shooting way more unassisted shots can’t have anything to do with Dame himself... blasphemy!
     
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    Just because you say they're random factoids doesn't mean they are. If you say he's sharing the ball less and it's proven that he is actually sharing the ball more it doesn't matter how slight the margins are you're fucking wrong and your posts are stupid pieces of shit.
     
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    No it means your arguments are illogical and ignore extremely obvious things like minutes per game

    plus “sharing the ball” and “assists” are not perfect synonyms.

    I also didn’t say “sharing the ball” I said he isn’t giving the ball where people want it and facilitating. Getting half an assist more than last year doesn’t prove shit. It’s a factoid.
     
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    LOL....you are a fountain of unintentional irony
     
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    Wade Garrett Exactly right.

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    Dear lord how much time do you spend in here?
     
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    Um you said that Dame wasn't sharing the ball and trusting his teammates like he did in a previous year. Potential assists per game takes out whether or not teammates hit shots so it's actually a good stat to use for if he's sharing the ball.

    Don't like that because it proves your theory wrong how about this...

    Assist % which is the % field goals for teammates you assist on while on the floor. It doesn't matter how many minutes you play.

    Dame is averaging 32.3%, which is the 2nd highest of his career and more than each of the previous 3 seasons.
     
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    I don’t dismiss arguments outright. I just keep putting your dumb factoids in context. Also you don’t know what irony is.
     
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    assist % is a crude measure at best. You would expect his assist % to be higher on a roster filled with new players...

    And your margins are tiny. He’s getting 1/2 of an assist more per game while playing more minutes and you’re trying to pretend this is some astonishing improvement in his passing.

    You can keep repeating the same statistically illiterate arguments as many times as you want. They aren’t getting any better to anyone who knows how to read stats at a 9th grade level.
     
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    Didn't you say you studied statistics? If you did that is the worst school in the world.
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    I'll give this guy credit for uniting the forum, even though it's against him.
     
  18. Blazers1977

    Blazers1977 Well-Known Member

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    It’s more just you and your usual 3-4 forum bros

    and it’s more uniting against statistical literacy than anything. Enjoy babbling nonsensically about factoids you don’t grasp the context of. That podcast will take off any day now.
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    I love how hard you're trying to sound smart.

    It's already in the stratosphere.
     
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    Blazers1977 Well-Known Member

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    I’m speaking at a 10th grade reading level. If you think this is “sounding smart” you may have spent too much time on basketball while you were in college.
     

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