I don't think you know how a forum works. It is here for us to discuss anything and everything. You ever heard the only bad question is the one not asked? I suggest not taking this so personal. Most people discussing trading one or both understand we need equal value back or I don't think anyone here would discuss it. If you don't like it ignore the thread the poster or whatever, but yourbabbling about telling others what they can and can't discuss/think is as absurd as you think trading them are. Chill out, calm down and enjoy the discussions. W all want the same thing. The best team possible. We are never all going to agree on each of the players.
Quiz: Which is the best way to piss off Cippy? 1. Trade Lillard once. 2. Post a thousand times that we should trade Lillard. I'll stick with #2.
NAh. you were freaking out. :0 It's okay though . You were damn near tossing personal insults out there its frustrating you so much. If you were chilled out you wouldnt have put such an effort into such a long post. Its all good, but lets keep it real.
Could be that his version of chill is equivalent to your version of amped up and my version of going nuclear. We all operate within different continua.
Gun to the head must trade one, which appears to be where the Blazers are heading. It’s been trading CJ, until recently. I am starting to believe trading Dame is the best answer, on several levels. 1) Replacing a PG is much easier than replacing a SG. SG is the thinnest position in the league, with next to nothing in the draft to improve the depth. PG is one of the deepest positions in the league, with a good crop of prospects in the draft. 2) A far as Dame vs CJs leadership. I agree Dame was the team leader, last season. His leadership was probably the main reason they overachieved last season. However, something has changed, or this team would not be in the funk it is now. The team appears to play better as a team when Lillard misses a game. There is something going on now that is not right, and Lillard is not fixing it. 3) CJ appears to a better defender than Dame. We need a PG that can create for others, defend, and then score when needed. I believe it is Dames lack of defense that is causing so many problems for our bigs at the rim. I would be listening to trade offers for both, but down deep, believe Lillard is now the player to trade. Build the team around CJ.
This is the real rub, for me. Because it's been SO LONG since we've had a good PG we've been conditioned to think that they're hard to come by and we should be lucky to have such a good one. But the fact of the matter is that Dame isn't that special - he's in the Top 3rd of starting PGs. And with so many supposedly good PGs entering the league, that may further diminish his standing.
All of these types of threads seem to be started by the same person.... and they always seem to lean towards the same line of questioning. I had to sort through about a million Trump threads. Lillard or McCollum? http://www.sportstwo.com/threads/lillard-or-mccollum.308271/ Would you trade Lillard? http://www.sportstwo.com/threads/would-you-trade-lillard.307896/ CJ quietly outplaying Dame? http://www.sportstwo.com/threads/cj-quietly-outplaying-dame.306864/ Kemba Walker http://www.sportstwo.com/threads/kemba-walker.306160/
Anyone have thoughts on a trade centered around Dame for Simmons/Okafor? Simmons could be our point forward. Our starting lineup would get bigger, and much better on D.
I have serious doubts that Philly would give up on him so quickly. Additionally, it's very unlikely Neil would trade Damian for a guy on injured reserve.
Nice to get an insiders view, because I have no idea what either GM would do, or not. I am only trying to figure out what is fair trade value for Dame.
I think that's one of those trades that ultimately doesn't work for either side. Simmons is probably either going to be a lot more valuable than Lillard or quite a bit less so (yes, in between is certainly possible but he strikes me as particularly boom/bust) and I don't think either side will want to accept that kind of risk: Olshey the risk that he gives away Lillard for an injured player that ultimately doesn't pan out and Colangelo that he gives away a possibly unique star for a non-superstar. Especially with Philadelphia still building and Portland trying to reach contender status sooner than later, I think Philly would prefer to go with the big-upside risk and Portland would prefer to stick with the certainty of Lillard.
Then you keep the problem, but just change the player's name. I have always felt that a team should not be "built around" its one or even two top players. Stotts has trained Lillard to play selfishly and take many laconic lackadaisical shots, which frustrates his teammates into not playing 110% like they did last year. It's a class system.
All good valid points. Q. Given the age and timeline of the super teams that are the real contenders. And then include the timeline of the Blazers salaries and cap structure. When do you think during Dame’s reign the Blazers will be a TRUE CONTENDER? When I look at the two timelines. I do not believe we will ever be a true contender during Dames reign, sad but true. It’s not Dames fault, but the Warriors and Cavs have the contender timeline wrapped up. Plus, with our screwed up cap space issue, we are not going to able to add the additional talent needed to be a true contender in Dames reign. I was thinking further out, and getting even younger by trading Dame for younger cheap top tier players. Let them develop, and then be in position to strike when the Warriors and Cavs backslide. Sure it is a gamble, but we are not going anywhere in the playoffs. With our screwed up cap space for the next 3-4 seasons, we are not going to able to get close to being a true contender in Dames reign.
I am smoking Churchill’s, and you are smoking Wowy Maui. We are seeing different things in our deductive reasoning smoke.
