Lillard says Trail Blazers need to ‘look in the mirror’

[mook]

Drop Melo from the rotation. He won't like it, but guess what? It's happened before to him and it'll happen again. Boo hoo if he decides to complain or not re-sign next year.

Our bench should be Little, Jones and Kanter. Period. That's an 8 man rotation. Probably not good enough to get us out of the first round, but certainly better than what we've been seeing.

Throw Ant out there if you need an extra shooter.

 

[julius]

Drop Melo from the rotation. He won't like it, but guess what? It's happened before to him and it'll happen again. Boo hoo if he decides to complain or not re-sign next year.

Our bench should be Little, Jones and Kanter. Period. That's an 8 man rotation. Probably not good enough to get us out of the first round, but certainly better than what we've been seeing.

Throw Ant out there if you need an extra shooter.

Not sure that they need to cut down to an 8 man rotation, but really looking at the team, there isn't much else (I'm still not ready to give up on Simons, but he's definitely making a case to be benched).

 

[Strenuus]

A good team.

A good team goes 1-8 against teams above them?

Got it.

 

[Hoopguru]

Not sure that they need to cut down to an 8 man rotation, but really looking at the team, there isn't much else (I'm still not ready to give up on Simons, but he's definitely making a case to be benched).

Hes learning from the best. Guards that iso and shoot the long ball.

 

[Natebishop3]

Drop Melo from the rotation. He won't like it, but guess what? It's happened before to him and it'll happen again. Boo hoo if he decides to complain or not re-sign next year.

Our bench should be Little, Jones and Kanter. Period. That's an 8 man rotation. Probably not good enough to get us out of the first round, but certainly better than what we've been seeing.

Throw Ant out there if you need an extra shooter.

Honestly I have given up on this season. Too much needs to change for it to be successful.

I'm just hoping that Stotts/Melo and hopefully Olshey are gone after this season.

 

[Phatguysrule]

A good team goes 1-8 against teams above them?

Got it.

It certainly can. The teams above them are likely better than them.

 

[mook]

Honestly I have given up on this season. Too much needs to change for it to be successful.

I'm just hoping that Stotts/Melo and hopefully Olshey are gone after this season.

I'm hoping that we give Little another shot. The one time all season he gets more than 23 minutes in a game he goes off for 30.

CJ has to get traded this summer for an upgrade at forward/center. We need to give Little some run to find out just what we've got in him.

Unfortunately, I suspect our head coach is already thinking about his next job, and developing a 20 year old isn't going to play much into his plans.

 

[Natebishop3]

I'm hoping that we give Little another shot. The one time all season he gets more than 23 minutes in a game he goes off for 30.

CJ has to get traded this summer for an upgrade at forward/center. We need to give Little some run to find out just what we've got in him.

Unfortunately, I suspect our head coach is already thinking about his next job, and developing a 20 year old isn't going to play much into his plans.

Perfect world: next season I would like to see our lineup something like this:

Dame
Norm
(New Small forward)
RoCo
Nurk

Little
Kanter
(Backup point guard)
Simons

New Coach
New GM

Obviously that's a lot of change. Realistically I don't think we're going to fire Stotts AND Olshey, so it's most likely going to be Stotts. I also don't think we're going to keep DJJ. I think he's going to opt out and bail. I wouldn't stay here if I was him. I'm just hoping we can retain Norm.

 

[GDiama]

Look at Dallas too, Ever since they won it all 9 years ago they haven't made it out of the first round in five try's and never made the playoffs in 4 including last year. And they've had talented teams just not enough.
That one championship has bought their coach a lot of love in fact I heard on the radio they refer to their coach as one of the best in the league?
The league over the years the league has recycled coaches and the ones that win a championship punch a ticket for longevity.
I mean Walton was undefeated in the playoffs with GS and Brown won the whole thing too but Kerr cant take a talented team now to the playoffs.
Im for changes in Portland but it doesn't guarantee anything other that change. Roll the dice Cincinnati.

Change doesn't guarantee success, but insisting on the same thing and hoping now it will work seems stupid to me. Both Olshey and Stotts had more than enough time to prove themselves. We need to move on and try something different.

 

[Phatguysrule]

And let's be clear, I'm not in here arguing for no change, I'm asking if we have confidence that the people in charge right now are the people who will make the right kind of change? And what kind of change would that BE? Which new coach? Which new GM? Why them?

 

[Hoopguru]

Change doesn't guarantee success, but insisting on the same thing and hoping now it will work seems stupid to me. Both Olshey and Stotts had more than enough time to prove themselves. We need to move on and try something different.

Im not opposed to change as long as you get someone with a proven resume to improve the team.
Hell, I would trade Dame fro the right deal if it improved our team.

 

[RoseCityRebel]

Just a thought...

But it's possible some of the team is tired of carrying him and CJ on defense, while watching them (and Melo) jack up contested shots without passing the ball on the other end. Personally, if I was playing on a team with guys like Dame and CJ, I would stop trying too.

You’re saying the role players stopped trying to fill the roles they are paid millions for because ... what do you mean? That they are there to fill roles while the two stars score so they won’t try now?

Are you calling RoCo and DJJ quitters because you’d quit in a fit? That’s quite a slam on those guys. I’d like to think they have much more professionalism than some dude on a message board saying they aren’t trying and he wouldn’t either.

 

[Natebishop3]

You’re saying the role players stopped trying to fill the roles they are paid millions for because ... what do you mean? That they are there to fill roles while the two stars score so they won’t try now?

Are you calling RoCo and DJJ quitters because you’d quit in a fit? That’s quite a slam on those guys. I’d like to think they have much more professionalism than some dude on a message board saying they aren’t trying and he wouldn’t either.

 

[Phatguysrule]

in other words, nearly half the league, making him slightly better than average



it wasn't that good. He was hired as GM of the Clippers in March 2010 (10 months after they had drafted Blake Griffin). His first order of business was the 2010 draft where he promptly selected Aminu...just before Paul George and Gordon Hayward were drafted (sounds familiar). His team won 32 games the next season

after that season, he was essentially gifted Chris Paul when the NBA disallowed the CP3 to Lakers trade. The next season, his team won the equivalent of 50 games in a lockout shortened season, won a 4/5 matchup 1st round series in 7 games, followed by getting swept in the 2nd round (sounds familiar)

to summarize, he fucked up a draft pick, was gifted an all-star, had a 72-76 regular season record, and a 4-7 playoff record that included a sweep. That resume was actually a really good predictor of what would happen in Portland



well, start with the "10-15" GM's you said were better



no, you don't get away with that narrative. Olshey is in his 11th season as a GM. In 10 seasons, his teams made it to the conference finals once...10 seasons not 5. And they didn't win a single game. His teams have a .358 winning mark in the playoffs. His teams have been swept 4 times and 4 other times they've folded 1-4. If you're not keeping track, that's a 4-32 record in the playoffs against contenders or bad matchups.

his teams plateau at 'pretender-on-a-fancy-treadmill'...that's been the ceiling, and right now, the 11th season is not looking much different than the first 10

LOL. Luckiest guy in the world I guess.

Again propose somebody we could get with a better resume.

 

[GDiama]

LOL. Luckiest guy in the world I guess.

Again propose somebody we could get with a better resume.

I guess it's not his job to do so. Why someone needs to name a new coach or a new GM if he thinks the current one is not good enough? Results show he is not good enough.

 

[blazerkor]

OK. Care to list the other GMs we can go get who've gotten 2 teams to the 2nd round, as well as one to the conference championships twice in 5 years?

So I'm supposed to go and find another mediocre GM... why would I want to do that? Try to find a list of professionals that meets your fucking weird ass criteria. Sorry, I don't want to play your strange scavenger hunt. I guarantee you there are GMs out there that have gotten more than two teams to the second round. I also know there are tons of teams that have kept the same GM during several shitty runs where they get stopped at the conference finals multiple times. I'm not going to go look or make a list of that kind of common mediocrity. Olshey has no accomplishments as an NBA executive besides being the most underqualified guy with the most seasons as a GM.

I seriously can't believe you wanted me to find GMs that got two teams to the second round and have made two conference finals appearances... fucking hilarious.

I don't care what another former GM has done... I'd much rather have a guy with credentials, like a playing career and/or more than five years of NBA front office or coaching experience.

I am so fucking sick of the tail wagging the dog for this team.

 

[Phatguysrule]

So I'm supposed to go and find another mediocre GM... why would I want to do that? Try to find a list of professionals that meets your fucking weird ass criteria. Sorry, I don't want to play your strange scavenger hunt. I guarantee you there are GMs out there that have gotten more than two teams to the second round. I also know there are tons of teams that have kept the same GM during several shitty runs where they get stopped at the conference finals multiple times. I'm not going to go look or make a list of that kind of common mediocrity. Olshey has no accomplishments as an NBA executive besides being the most underqualified guy with the most seasons as a GM.

I seriously can't believe you wanted me to find GMs that got two teams to the second round and have made two conference finals appearances... fucking hilarious.

I don't care what another former GM has done... I'd much rather have a guy with credentials, like a playing career and/or more than five years of NBA front office or coaching experience.

I am so fucking sick of the tail wagging the dog for this team.

Got it. I was actually hoping for some constructive conversation, but nevermind.

 

[Phatguysrule]

I guess it's not his job to do so. Why someone needs to name a new coach or a new GM if he thinks the current one is not good enough? Results show he is not good enough.

I keep hearing that, but I have yet to see how bad he is compared to anybody else we could go get.

Then when I ask who people just get mad...

Sorry, pissing and moaning without a plan just doesn't appeal to me.

 

[James lamphear]

Well Dame right they need to gets some pop ride and heart. I just watched the the game offense we are basically full speed through our iso and some one's. Defense looks like half speed with know effort at all. Nurk still looks like having problems moving lateral it might due not in shape but might have to with steel rod in his leg.