Lillard says Trail Blazers need to ‘look in the mirror’

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  1. Wizard Mentor

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    Stotts is a stubborn one; can't admit when he's wrong. Cuz with defense this shitty, he is partly to blame, no question. Hubris, man, it's a killer. It doesn't take a genius to see that there are simple ways to ensure Enes and Melo aren't on the floor together for every game. Giles and Nas????Sure there may be games where it's fine to have the gruesome twosome on the floor, but when your ass is on the line Terry, you got to change.

    Who knows, Dame could request a fucking trade. It's clear from his playing that something ain't right with him.
     
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    Don’t sell us short. Action for a basketball professional is winning. Action for us board posters is typing. All we are is action.
     
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    In Portland, He’s had a 54 win team and a 51 win team and a 53 win team. Never below 40 except for first year. You’re not painting a very accurate picture. He’s also put together a team that consistently competed. Never truly contended but that doesn’t mean mediocre. Kings are mediocre. Pacers are mediocre.
     
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    Selling Dame's future for Melo's former legacy.

    Boo!
     
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    So what would you call a team that makes the playoffs but can never win consistently?
     
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    You seem to forget last year?
     
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    FTFY. If Quick was smart he'd watch Trail Blazers Uprise with @BonesJones and @hoopsjock.
     
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    You never know, he might.
     
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    he's also had a 41 win team, a 39 win team (35 in a 74 game season...so you're wrong about the 40 win floor), and a 33 win team. Add those 6 seasons together and it's a 45 win average, only 4 wins over .500

    what I said was accurate and factual. You may believe I left out important context, but nothing I said was false

    LOL...you make things too easy sometimes.....first of all, the Kings aren't mediocre....they are just bad; bad as a team, and bad as an example

    but now, let's talk about those mediocre Pacers (your label). This is Olshey's 9th season. In the 8 seasons before this one, Portland won 364 games (with last season normalized to 82 games). That's an average of 45.5 wins/year. In the same period of time, Indiana won 377 games for an average of 47.1 wins/year. Indiana won 13 more games over 8 seasons than Portland

    if you then include this season, the count is 394 wins for Portland and 400 wins for Indiana. Further, in that same period of time, Indiana won 5 games in the conference finals; Portland won 0

    so, I do agree with you....Indiana has been mediocre, just like Portland. They have just had slightly better mediocrity
     
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    Horses can too. But Dame can't.
     
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    And that level of success over that span is better than all but about 10-15 other teams. He had a resume before he came to Portland as well. A good one.

    What GM can we go get who's had more success more often than Olshey?

    Who else can we be confident would get Portland more than 2 WCF in 5 years?
     
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    OK. Care to list the other GMs we can go get who've gotten 2 teams to the 2nd round, as well as one to the conference championships twice in 5 years?
     
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    A good team.
     
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    Indiana has been a good team, IMO. They've also had a far easier schedule than Portland with the east having far fewer good teams.
     
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    Look at Dallas too, Ever since they won it all 9 years ago they haven't made it out of the first round in five try's and never made the playoffs in 4 including last year. And they've had talented teams just not enough.
    That one championship has bought their coach a lot of love in fact I heard on the radio they refer to their coach as one of the best in the league?
    The league over the years the league has recycled coaches and the ones that win a championship punch a ticket for longevity.
    I mean Walton was undefeated in the playoffs with GS and Brown won the whole thing too but Kerr cant take a talented team now to the playoffs.
    Im for changes in Portland but it doesn't guarantee anything other that change. Roll the dice Cincinnati.
     
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    Yeah, but did Indiana win in Denver in game 7 on the road!?

    YAH! didn't think so, sucka!!!
     
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    I came away from the article with a similar thought, but in a slightly different direction. Start Melo at the 4 and move RoCo over to the 3. We'd have great inside presence to cover for Melo defensively, and we'd be loaded offensively with them and the 3-guard lineup. When Kanter comes in for Nurk, RoCo slides over to the 4 until he's ready for a breather. He and Jones are so similar, they can surely mesh roles.
     
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