Lillard's invisible performance

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  1. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    And you're making this into too big of a deal.

    He shot 4-15 last night. Two of those were blocked shots. At least another two were layups that he missed because he was worried about Jordan. They were wide open too. He just missed at the rim. Those are high efficiency shots, he just missed.

    He went 2-8 from three. Were all 6 of those missed threes ill advised? Were 4 of them?
     
  2. stampedehero

    stampedehero Make Your Day, a Doobies Day Staff Member Moderator

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    Now, without Paul (broken hand
    Underdog!!!
     
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    stampedehero Make Your Day, a Doobies Day Staff Member Moderator

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    Paul gets hurt. Dame should crucify his opposition and enforce personal revenge. Paul may be a prick but he's a damn good prick.
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  4. H.C.

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    This is no excuse.

    In the past two playoffs one could argue that he's faced the best two defensive point guards in the league.
    Mike Conley is an amazing defender and does it without fouling. With Gasol/Allen also there you really start to have issues scoring. This man is super underrated.
    CP3 for all the things he does that makes you hate him, he's still an amazing defender. He works defensively not just when he's on the ball, but he also works to keep you from getting the ball. & he has DJ backing him up...
    There is a reason why Lillard keeps going backdoor in this series for layups. They don't want him to touch the ball.
    We all saw what he did vs an overrated defensive pg in Beverly... You know the "Lillard stopper"

    Can Lillard be better? Yes.
    BUT
    At the end of the day I want a leader of my fav team to make the high bbiq play. For the majority of the time he does that, and he's won games for us by taking what the defense gives him. Just like he did last night. People underestimate how difficult the pass is when you get trapped on a pick and roll. It's NOT an easy pass. Anytime he makes it people should be saying "wow nice pass".
     
  5. handiman

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    I said nothing about ill-advised shots. You're confusing me with someone else.

    He needs to try something different instead of trying to out-reach Jordan at the rim. Stop on a dime and make him run into you... The greats find a way to adjust their game to the defense and maintain fairly normal levels of production.

    You mean the hobbled Beverly that barely looked like he belonged on the floor? He gave Lillard all sorts of trouble before the injury.
     
  6. KingSpeed

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    Ummmm when Aminu scores 30 and Crabbe goes 5/5, that is because of the attention Dame commands. Dame played great last night. He was calm when trapped. He got the ball to Plumlee. He found Crabbe and Aminu in rhythm. Anyone who thinks Dame played badly last night wasn't paying attention.
     
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    Not to mention Dame hit the open dagger three to put us up 12.
     
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    Dame didn't have a bad night at all. Learn the game, then post.
     
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    How do you think Plumlee gets the ball to make those 10 assists? It's because Dame is being trapped by Jordan and Paul.
     
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    Exactly.
     
  11. Binx

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    I never said that. Someone who read my post interpreted it that way. Of course you can pass out of a double team. My point is that Lillard has to do a better job of dealing with double teams and there are several ways to do that, none of which he has been particularly excelling at.
     
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    Not true. I see people raving about Lillard's great games all the time on this board. What's ironic is that we've all elevated him to the "great" level, but then we give him a pass when he doesn't perform like a great player.
     
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    Feb 6th - Win
    21 points, 10 assists, 4 turnovers, 1 steal, 4 rebounds, 4-4 from the ft line
    Feb 10th - Win
    31 points, 9 assists, 4 turnovers, 3 steals, 3 rebounds, 9-11 from the ft line
    Feb 25th - Loss(Harden scored 45)
    23 points, 7 assists, 1 turnover, 6 rebounds, 8-8 from the FT line.

    If those are giving someone trouble... Then please do enlighten me as to what Lillard looks like when he doesn't have a bad game,
    I could go back to last year as well.
    Beverly never has been considered a Lillard stopper. It was a narrative driven by the media due to Beverly's extra antics.
    I won't even bring up this year when Beverly did extra stuff after the whistle that Lillard went off right after it. So much so the Rockets pulled the "Lillard stopper" off Lillard and put Ariza on him.

    Bottom line is Beverly is an overrated defender who hasn't ever slowed down an elite pg in the NBA. He does good against the Lin's of the league though.
     
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    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    27% from three with a 13 PER...

    CP3 absolutely owned him on both ends of the court.

    You have Rivers and Pablo, you have no excuse now.
     
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    1.) Teams can play him tighter (taking away 3s) because they are allowed to be more physical

    2.) The refs arent calling handchecks, so the Clips get away with that, taking away drives.

    3.) If he does get to the rim, you have DeAndre Jordan taking away layins

    4.) You have refs swallowing their whistle, taking away free throws.

    5.) They're trapping, taking away everything
     
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    You could say all these things about Dellavedova as well.
     
  17. HomerLovesKoolAid

    HomerLovesKoolAid I have a well-known member.

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    Right again, marathon man.
     
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    Wait, did you just cherry pick stats from this year in an attempt to disprove my point from prior to the Houston series two years ago? Of course Lillard's numbers are better against Beverly than they were when he was still a major defensive force.

    There have been some absurd posts here over the years, but that's has to be among the best.

    How do you explain their shooting woes in games 1-3, then?
     
  19. Strenuus

    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    You missed a lot of my posts. I was pandering.

    Learn to read my posts, then post.

    :cheers:
     
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    13-14 season.
    Dec 12th - Win
    8 points, 6 assists, 4 turnovers, 5-5 from the line.
    (Lillard was a +20, Aldridge had 31/25)
    Jan 20th - Loss(Parsons had 31 & Aldridge had 27/20)
    24 points, 5 assists, 4 turnovers, 1 rebound, 7-8 from the line.
    March 9th - Loss (Harden had 41 in OT win, Aldridge 28/12, Lillard fouled out)
    21 points, 4 assists, 7 turnovers, 4 rebounds, 2 steals, 4-4 from the line.


    14-15 season
    Dec 22nd - loss(Harden had 44)
    18 points, 3 assists, 6 turnovers, 3 rebounds, 1 steal, 6-6 from the line.
    Feb 8th - Win
    23 points, 5 assists, 1 turnover 5 rebounds, 2 steals, 10-11 from the line.
    March 11th - Win
    14 points, 8 assists, 3 turnovers, 5 rebounds, 3-4 from the line.


    When was the last time Mr. Beverly stopped any elite NBA point guard?

    Have a nice day.
     
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