Lillard's year 2 improvement: More impressive than Roy's?

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  1. RR7

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    I suppose two options are you can discuss it or you can just be an ass.
     
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    BlazerCaravan Hug a Bigot... to Death

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    I've been picking for number two all night, PapaG... It hasn't worked... Just FYI.
     
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    OK. I'm not sure how to compare the two, though, since one has a two-time AS PF with him, and the other had a bunch of NBA scrubs. I'm not sure how asking this makes me an ass, RR7.
     
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    To be fair, Roy had LA and Batum.
     
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    He didn't have this LMA and Batum, though. LMA wasn't close to an AS at that point, and Nic, while I did appreciate his game, didn't fit in well with that offense.
     
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    Then there's your discussion. I think you started off the thread just fine, and made a solid post thinking that the different circumstances of the two means that a simple stat comparison doesn't fit. You're on a message board getting mad at people putting up items for discussion. "What do we do with this opinion?" Again, it's a Blazers message board. I don't get being annoyed at people for having a differing opinion, or presenting a topic for discussion.
     
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    Agreed. But you could make the case that Lillard is still being scouted like he's The Man, getting hounded a lot by defenders. Lillard has definitely put in the hours. Maybe the biggest advantage is that Lillard has an offensive scheme, which makes doubling any player for long impossible. That and his near infinite range make him at great to go off at any moment.
     
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    I didn't get mad at anyone. I offered up stats as a #1 versus a #2, and asked the OP to consider that POV. I think you're using your own bias against me, and not actually reading what I posted.
     
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    I am reading what you're posting. Read what I said. You had fine posts with your POV on the topic. I just don't get the need for the quoted posts.
     
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    I'll accept the constructive criticism. We can all improve for the betterment of S2, and I do see how my posts could be misinterpreted. :cheers:
     
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    Again, I think you started it off perfect. Stats alone, one can make the argument. And you pointed out the difference in situations, and what a HUGE role it plays. I'm not a perfect poster, and likely am hypocritical on shit like this occasionally. Just see too many threads go to this, when a solid discussion of opinions instead could take place.

    As a related aside, I think it's awesome the amount of information the league provides, and that is available to us fans to even have these discussions, as opposed to 20 years ago, when you might try to have a similar discussion based entirely on..."yeah, but I was at a game where he had an awesome game winner..."
     
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    I'm actually going to law school in the fall as I continue to consult on some businesses in the area. One thing I need to learn is to keep emotion out of the argument, and just look at the actual case being presented. It's not easy to do on this board, but there is some actual training that can happen here.
     
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    best of luck to you in your new endeavor. :cheers:
     
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    Why in the hell are you silly people saying Damian is the Number 2 option when CLEARLY we have 2 number 1 options on this team?
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    PERSONAL ATTACK! :MARIS61:

    I just base it off of shot attempts and usage rate. Aldridge takes 4.5 more shots per 36, and has a 4.4% higher usage rate than Lillard, despite Lillard being the primary ball-handler. The gap is greater than that between Harden and Howard, Dirk and Monta, Curry and Thompson...really bigger the gap between the top two options on about 3/4 of the teams in the league.
     
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    Honestly, at this point, I'm just ecstatic that we have been fortunate enough to luck into another guard who is as good, maybe better, than Roy.

    Thank you Nets!
     

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