Livingston's Injury

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  1. Really Lost One

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    This really sucks for him, because as of late, he has really stepped up his game. Him and Elton Brand were really starting to play well together, now this happens.
     
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    Is that the same injury Dante Culpepper had without the knee cap dislocation? I just remember him tearing 3 different things in his knee.

    I wish him the best on making a comeback.
     
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    Dam, SL14 was really developing into a great player. Hope he can recover back to full strength and have a great year next season.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Karma Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Update



    Jesus Christ.</div>

    Pretty much my thoughts.
     
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    I always get nervous watching real skinny guys jumping up and down, I'm always worried I'm gonna see a knee fly out a fewfeet. I don't think there's a more viscerally unpleasant injury I've seen in a basetball game.The worst ever was that hockey game where the goalie got his throat slit, I almost fainted when I saw that.
     
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    His career is over.

    He'll never be the same, he won't have the speed, motion, or confidence to ever plant that foot again. So sad...
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Montaman Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I always get nervous watching real skinny guys jumping up and down, I'm always worried I'm gonna see a knee fly out a fewfeet. I don't think there's a more viscerally unpleasant injury I've seen in a basetball game.The worst ever was that hockey game where the goalie got his throat slit, I almost fainted when I saw that.</div>

    [​IMG] NHL game?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Karma Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">[​IMG] NHL game?</div>

    Invalid Video Link
     
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    Oh mannnn, good thing the camera angle wasn't in such a way that the accident could be seen clearly. That's horrible. I think that's why all goalies have to wear neck protectors now.
     
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    I just wish Shaun best wishes for a speedy recovery.

    It's gotta play havoc with your mind especially if you done it before to the other knee. Yet I was reading his doctor's comments and it sounds like he could be back in 8 mos to a year. That's grueling rehab. Okay, if he can get past that part, I will be rooting for him to do so, then you have to have confidence that your ligaments are strong enough to withstand the pace and physicality of the NBA game. I'm no doctor or rehab specialist, but can he strengthen his ligaments? Of course, it could be stronger when he comes back like Tommy John surgery on the arm. I dunno.

    I'm not gonna watch that hockey accident. Nope. No way. That'll stay with me for a few days. I've seen some serious baseball injuries and it's something that stays with you like forever.
     
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    Yeah, I immediately wished I hadn't watched the Livingston video... The rest of the day, every time I jogged ran, took a skip step, I'd stop abruptly cause of the mental image.

    When I saw the video, it occured to me that the play looked so routine... is this the sort of thing that was a freak accident, or could his conditioning or injury history have played a role?
     
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    It's his body. He's got a weak, frail body. He's got almost no muscle on him and when you're that tall and that frail, your body can't take a lot of tension. He probably came down hard and awkward on his leg and his knee just had too much tension and snapped like a twig.
     
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    The PCL tear is the worst. I've heard stories of it taking up to a full year to be able to walk 20 feet comfortably after recovering from a PCL tear, factor in the torn meniscus, ACL, and MCL, it's just such a sad thought.

    8-12 months to get back to basketball activies, such as light jogging, dribbling, etc. I'm not a doctor and I don't want to play one, but I'd be surprised at all hell if he steps on that court next year or half way through the year after. I just can't see him coming back from this injury, which is devastating. He wasn't a superstar talent, but he was no slouch, either. Has he talked to the media at all since the injury?
     
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    To my knowledge it doesn't have to do with his injury history, because his previous injury was with his right knee.

    He took off with his right leg, usually you land with your left, so that was right.

    However he rotated his body to make the layup.

    ^^^^^^ Body looking towards the basket
    <----- Body going to the left,

    He landed doing a 2/3 splits, however his body's momentum kept his body moving left, and the knee dislocated.
     
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    It didn't have anything to do with the right knee, you're right, but what I was saying is he has a history of injuries, he's never played a full season. He missed a good portion of last year, some games his second year, and his rookie season he dislocated his right knee. His body isn't big enough to handle the rigors of the NBA season.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Karma Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Oh mannnn, good thing the camera angle wasn't in such a way that the accident could be seen clearly. That's horrible. I think that's why all goalies have to wear neck protectors now.</div>

    Yeah, read about the incident here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clint_Malarchuk

    It's crazy.... 7 fans fainted, 2 fans had heart attacks, and 2 hockey players vomitted on court. That just isn't cool.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Mamba Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">It didn't have anything to do with the right knee, you're right, but what I was saying is he has a history of injuries, he's never played a full season. He missed a good portion of last year, some games his second year, and his rookie season he dislocated his right knee. His body isn't big enough to handle the rigors of the NBA season.</div>Well I think this injury has a lot to do with the way he landed sideways and did a 2/3 splits.

    Is he unable to handle the rigors of the nba, I dunno. Livingston (6-7, 182 pds) Reggie Miller (albeit more of a 3 point shooter, but very active) was 6-7, 195, he played 18 years.

    George Gervin was 6-7, 185 pounds. Won 4 scoring titles.

    Although I do agree that more properly added muscle would help Livingston.

    Is it just me, or are there are a lot of injuries this year?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Mamba Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">It's his body. He's got a weak, frail body. He's got almost no muscle on him and when you're that tall and that frail, your body can't take a lot of tension. He probably came down hard and awkward on his leg and his knee just had too much tension and snapped like a twig.</div>

    That's a big misconception, A ligament tear can happen to anyone(remember Nene?K-Mart?Baron Davis?) It's unexplainable, age doesn't matter either but gender does women are more likely to suffer knee injuries that men. I tore my ACL sprained my PCL and tore the Meniscus in my right knee, the funny part was I wasn't doing anything that you would consider ackward or reckless, I just happen to stop, cut then BOOM. now as far a s pain, after the initial "POP" It's actually not that painfull. Shaun's biggest hurdle is going to be mentally, believe me It's been two years and I just recently stopped wearing my big Robocop knee brace, but once you get on the court and take a good hit or go up in traffic for a layup, you get more confidence. I'm optimistic about his return to play, he's got a lot of things going for him, he's young and medical technology has come a long way.
     
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    The thing is, look at his career and his injuries. His rookie year, he dislocated his right knee, second year missed some games, and last season he missed a good portion of games due to a bad back. For someone so young, all these injuries are not a good sign of his bodies ability to handle pressure.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Mamba Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">The PCL tear is the worst. I've heard stories of it taking up to a full year to be able to walk 20 feet comfortably after recovering from a PCL tear, factor in the torn meniscus, ACL, and MCL, it's just such a sad thought.

    8-12 months to get back to basketball activies, such as light jogging, dribbling, etc. I'm not a doctor and I don't want to play one, but I'd be surprised at all hell if he steps on that court next year or half way through the year after. I just can't see him coming back from this injury, which is devastating. He wasn't a superstar talent, but he was no slouch, either. Has he talked to the media at all since the injury?</div>

    is that 8-12 months for a athlete or a normal person? becasuse your forgetting hes part of a multi million dollar franchise they will have him with the best doctors best clinics etc so it may be less than 8-12
     

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