Well also his career his basketball, he can focus on rehabbing that knee 40 hours a week to get it better. Someone who is a student, or needs to work can't expend as much time on knee rehabbing.
My cousin sent me a text during class about this injury. I asked what happened and he wrote "Just go to youtube!" I wondered what the big deal was, since I'm not a Clipper fan or anything. I like Elton Brand, but that's it. After I saw this I realized why he was wildin' out yesterday afternoon. Livingston was showing some great signs and he was bursting with potential. It's an unfortunate reality that his young career is probably over.
8-12 months is for anybody. Athletes don't have special tendons. No matter what kind of rehab, you're going to be out 8-12 months, or a hell of a lot more in Livingston's case.
<div class="quote_poster">Mamba Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">8-12 months is for anybody. Athletes don't have special tendons. No matter what kind of rehab, you're going to be out 8-12 months, or a hell of a lot more in Livingston's case.</div> Well 8-12 months is for a pro who like "thedude9990" pointed out has the best of the best as far as medical care. For a regular guy like most of us who can't rehab for 8 hrs a day, it's more like 18-24 months. I played my first full league game 16 months after my injury, the next day my knee swolle up and I had to quit the team. Another big issue is muscle athrophy my right leg is still somewhat smaller than my left leg. But like I said earlier he'll be back, just look at Willis Mcgahee's injury(It took him 19 months to play again)and he's been a productive back in the NFL.
<div class="quote_poster">Blurr#7 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Well 8-12 months is for a pro who like "thedude9990" pointed out has the best of the best as far as medical care. For a regular guy like most of us who can't rehab for 8 hrs a day, it's more like 18-24 months. I played my first full league game 16 months after my injury, the next day my knee swolle up and I had to quit the team. Another big issue is muscle athrophy my right leg is still somewhat smaller than my left leg. But like I said earlier he'll be back, just look at Willis Mcgahee's injury(It took him 19 months to play again)and he's been a productive back in the NFL.</div> A kid at my school had a similiar injury to you, he played a game or two and then his knee swelled up. The coach ended up shutting him down in his senior year and he then quit. Sounds like it sucks, worst injury I've ever had is a severely sprained ankle. Livingston is simply done IMO no way in hell you can mess up your knee that bad and be able to make it. He'll never be as explosive, loses all athletcism, never was a smart player in the first place, he simply won't make it. He's 6'7" and all but has no smarts and can't shoot good enough to make it in the NBA. Face it, he lost all confidence, potential, and probably won't get a contract extension now
Jesus, just watched some vids of the injury today after having already heard the news. I'd bet that he'll never come back from that injury. If hes ever allowed to play sports again he'll be far too unathletic to make it in the NBA. Even if he did maintain adequate athleticism he'd be too slow to keep playing PG and IMO hes just not skilled enough or bulky enough to play SF/SG. I never thought he'd be the player many were projecting him to be coming into the NBA because he lacked scoring ability and wasn't a very good PG, now I'd be shocked if he ever played another minute in the NBA.
I didnt find the footage disturbing at all, I've seen a hell of alot worse. I feel for the kid though, I think he'll return, but he wont be half the player he was, and I mean he wasnt even that good to begin with, so as Mamba said, this is probally the end of his career.
He should use his spare time to go to college and rehab... while the clippers are paying for the rehabe
People are comparing it to Willis McGahee's injury he suffered in college. He was able to return to playing football at a high level, so it's not out of the realm of possibility Livingston can recover from this. Invalid Video Link Disclaimer: Graphic footage
<div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">People are comparing it to Willis McGahee's injury he suffered in college. He was able to return to playing football at a high level, so it's not out of the realm of possibility Livingston can recover from this. Invalid Video Link Disclaimer: Graphic footage</div> yeah I remember watching that, we would have won that game if that didn't happen.
<div class="quote_poster">C.MELO15 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">yeah I remember watching that, we would have won that game if that didn't happen.</div> The Hurricanes did win the game in a sense, until they pulled the flag on them at the end. Oh well. McGahee has come back from that injury, but he isn't the prospect he once was.
<div class="quote_poster">huevonkiller Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">The Hurricanes did win the game in a sense, until they pulled the flag on them at the end. Oh well. McGahee has come back from that injury, but he isn't the prospect he once was.</div> yeah that call was total BS we should of won that game.
The McGahee one looked way worse, but then again Willis' body is a lot stronger and probably more durable than Livingston. I don't think his recovery will be nearly as quick.
The difference between Magahee and Livingston is that Magahee plays a sport where you can run through the guy and Livingston has to go around the guy. Magahee also had very good knowledge of the game he plays and had vision, Livingston was still learning and was a major project. Livingston should be done for his career and the Clips should look for a new PG in this year's draft.
<div class="quote_poster">J_Ray Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">The difference between Magahee and Livingston is that Magahee plays a sport where you can run through the guy and Livingston has to go around the guy. Magahee also had very good knowledge of the game he plays and had vision, Livingston was still learning and was a major project. Livingston should be done for his career and the Clips should look for a new PG in this year's draft.</div> Have to disagree as well, Football is WAY more demanding than Basketball(I played two years in high school)that's why they only play 16 games. And the whole running thru people thing well think about it, Willis is running at full speed and hits a linebacker who's job is to bring him down let's say the LB weighs 240lb, willis is pushing agaisnt his own weight and the LB's. Think about how much pressure is being excerted!! But you're right in saying his body was in better shape simply because he has more muscle mass. I'm telling you Livingston WILL be back, ligament repair surgeries are pretty common and the fact that they don't cut you open anymore is a big plus. I have three tiny little scars to show for my injury and you can't even see them!Now as far as him being a shell of his former self, well after an injury like that most Basketball players develop better fundamentals, because they are limited as to what they can do on the court and can't solely relly on athleticism.
<div class="quote_poster">Blurr#7 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Have to disagree as well, Football is WAY more demanding than Basketball(I played two years in high school)that's why they only play 16 games. And the whole running thru people thing well think about it, Willis is running at full speed and hits a linebacker who's job is to bring him down let's say the LB weighs 240lb, willis is pushing agaisnt his own weight and the LB's. Think about how much pressure is being excerted!! But you're right in saying his body was in better shape simply because he has more muscle mass. I'm telling you Livingston WILL be back, ligament repair surgeries are pretty common and the fact that they don't cut you open anymore is a big plus. I have three tiny little scars to show for my injury and you can't even see them!Now as far as him being a shell of his former self, well after an injury like that most Basketball players develop better fundamentals, because they are limited as to what they can do on the court and can't solely relly on athleticism.</div> Even though they didn't cut your leg open, don't you think they'll have to do a little more to his since he tore all 3 ligaments and dislocated his knee? The whole reason Livingston was good IMO was because of his rare height and athleticism at the PG spot. Now that he doesn't have that ability to get up anymore most likely, he's finished. BTW--On the football thing, it's not as hard as people say. You get a good rest in between plays to rest up everything, and then you aren't on the field all the time. If your a good player, like Magahee, you'll get the ball a good 20-25 times a game then take one hit to your upper body or be taken down by being wrapped up around the legs. But in basketball it's non-stop running on that bad leg, and that's where players get arthritis or tendinitis that keeps them out. Edit: Did Magahee dislocate his knee too or break something?
<div class="quote_poster">J_Ray Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Even though they didn't cut your leg open, don't you think they'll have to do a little more to his since he tore all 3 ligaments and dislocated his knee? The whole reason Livingston was good IMO was because of his rare height and athleticism at the PG spot. Now that he doesn't have that ability to get up anymore most likely, he's finished. </div> well the repair is going to be pretty much the same for all three ligaments,(Some are more difficult than others) the only thing that differs is were the "New" ligaments come from. I chose to get a graft wich in reality is the center part of a patellar tendon from a cadaver, some doctors use one of your own hamstrings as the new ligament but rehab is prolonged. Basically a hole will be drilled thru the area were your original ligaments once were and the grafts will pushed thru both openings and be literally screwed into place at the ends. What I meant by "cutting your leg open" is that 8-10 years ago scopes weren't available so Doctors would slice our leg open to fix whatever injury you had and then stitched you up. One of my teamates a while back had about a 10 inch scar on his knee from a ACL tear. Also with the older procedure infection was a very common occurence so your rehab was very long and painfull. But remember he's what 21? When I had my surgery that was the most important thing my Doctor stressed, "The younger you are the better your chances of having a FULL recovery" he said, I can tell you this I'm about 90% of what I once was but I don't play ball for a living so 90% will do. I personally think his chances a good. We'll see.
