Load Management for Dame and CJ?

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  1. Labinot41

    Labinot41 Well-Known Member

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    I would love to see Dame and CJ only playing 70 games in the RS, but i'm not sure if we can afford it in the Western Conference, especially with Nurk out for a long part of the Season, maybe against garbage Teams like Suns, Bulls, Cavs etc.?
     
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    Cugel The epitome of mediocrity

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    seems like that is the way the league is going for better or worse. you know the clippers and Lakers superstars will play less than 65 games, just enough to get the playoffs matchup they want
     
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    In another year when Simons is ready for a bigger role, resting either CJ or Dame should be easier to do. (One reason to keep all three)

    Right now they could get away with resting CJ as Hood can start some games. Hopefully we can add a veteran PG who can spell Dame for a few games.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Been saying this for a while here. Look at Dame's total minutes in his career and compare to others drafted around him. Look at how he broke down after the OKC series. This NEEDS to happen. If we want peak Dame in multiple playoff rounds, he can't be expected to carry the team for 75+ regular season games.

    CJ had a few redshirt years to start his career so I'm OK with his current load.
     
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    I don't believe in load management. I say go after getting HCA throughout the playoffs.
     
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    Here's my interpretation of what happened last year:

    CJ gets hurt late in the season, comes back after missing a bunch of games right before the season ends. He's fresh for the playoffs, and just kills it.

    Meanwhile, no such Load Management for Lillard, who had to go Extra HAM as CJ AND Nurk were out. What happened? We went on an absolute tear, which continued into the OKC series. However, after that series, he was physically and mentally spent. We managed to win the playoff series, but he was basically done by the end.

    We still put up a fight against GS - leading more minutes than them, but without a rested Lillard and without Nurk, we lost.

    So, I'm OK with Load Management during the first 2/3 of the season, but we should seriously use it down the stretch - on everyone except Nurk! Being rested for the playoffs is extremely important.
     
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    The only load management I see as maybe necessary is occasional back to back games for high load players (mainly Lillard and McCollum)
     
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    I agree with this.


    And I agree with this!


    This is driving me crazy.
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Guess what? Neither does Dame.
     
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    Not sure Dame and CJs load is any of our damned business
     
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    I don't think this is true. He definitely wants to play... A LOT. But, even when he was 26, he was talking about not dunking as much to conserve energy and prevent injury. He understands that as he gets older, there needs to be an extra emphasis on taking care of his body. I'm sure that he also understands he's been gassed at the end of the playoffs for the last several years...
     
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    I don't think this discussion is very interesting without data to back up any of the ideas or opinions.

    How can someone suggest 65 games instead of 70 games without any concrete data as justification?
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Because unlike robots or Vulcans, human beings often, in all aspects of their lives, have intuitive opinions that need not necessarily be supported by hard data.
     
  14. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    LINK?
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Does not compute.
     
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    Sure, and you know the saying... Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and they usually stink.

    Humans consistently believe they see patterns in random signals and build "intuition" from that. The stock market is a perfect example.

    You think it's an interesting discussion to debate between someone's intuition of limiting minute to 33 mpg vs 36 mpg? Or 70 games vs 74 games? With no supporting data?
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Whether or not I think it's interesting is irrelevant. If somebody thinks it's interesting, it doesn't harm me if they choose to discuss it.

    So I might pose the question: What value is gained in telling other people whether their topic of conversation is interesting to you?
     
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    blazerboy30 Well-Known Member

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    It actually could be an interesting discussion. I was curious if someone had some data suggesting there is a significantly increasing probability of injury or decreased production above some minutes or game threshold.

    Otherwise, it's basically a debate about which color underwear the player's dad should wear on Mondays.
     
  19. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Crazy thought--why not actually pose that question rather than simply come in and crap on the discussion?

    Blue, obviously. :rolleyes:
     
  20. blazerboy30

    blazerboy30 Well-Known Member

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    Have anything to add to the thread yourself?

    This basically sums up what the typical thread looks like on here lately. I'm sure you played in highschool making you an expert on underwear color.
     

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