lock for the playoffs

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Mediocre Man, Aug 28, 2018.

?

Pick one that's a lock for the playoffs

  1. Denver

    2 vote(s)
    4.4%
  2. Minnesota

    6 vote(s)
    13.3%
  3. Portland

    20 vote(s)
    44.4%
  4. Ssn Antonio

    17 vote(s)
    37.8%
  1. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

    Joined:
    May 7, 2015
    Messages:
    44,453
    Likes Received:
    38,480
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Vancouver, WA
    Oh based off the poll?

    San Antonio. I don't consider them a lock though, that's just if I had to pick.
     
    Hoopguru likes this.
  2. e_blazer

    e_blazer Rip City Fan

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    23,284
    Likes Received:
    28,763
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Consultant
    Location:
    Oregon City, OR
    Umm, given Mrs. HCP's reputation, you have to ask this?
     
    BonesJones and THE HCP like this.
  3. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    65,993
    Likes Received:
    52,278
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    N.E.P.
    YOU sir are better than this.
     
    Boob-No-More likes this.
  4. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2008
    Messages:
    37,580
    Likes Received:
    22,110
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Ballin'


    Forgot about Millsap.
     
  5. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2008
    Messages:
    37,580
    Likes Received:
    22,110
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Ballin'
    I think it's a generational thing. SVG managed to get Dwight Howard to look awesome and get to an NBA Finals. Compare what Howard did with Van Gundy to what he did with all the other coaches he's had... Likewise I don't think Derek Rose would've come CLOSE to league MVP if it wasn't for Thibs. (Of course, downside is he'd probably still be playing, and for a lot more than the minimum.)
     
    TorturedBlazerFan likes this.
  6. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

    Joined:
    May 7, 2015
    Messages:
    44,453
    Likes Received:
    38,480
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Vancouver, WA
    This Tweet haha... The sample size makes the stat meaningless but let's state the stat as if it has meaning anyway.
     
  7. JDC

    JDC Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2008
    Messages:
    3,296
    Likes Received:
    3,116
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Fair, but I'm not sure how anyone could argue that that lineup won't be very good.
     
  8. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

    Joined:
    May 7, 2015
    Messages:
    44,453
    Likes Received:
    38,480
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Vancouver, WA
    When you're guards and Center can't defend, you won't be very good.
     
  9. JDC

    JDC Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2008
    Messages:
    3,296
    Likes Received:
    3,116
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Murray/Harris/Millsap/Jokic was +11.5 last year and in the 78th percentile on D.

    And Chandler wasn't good last year.
     
  10. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

    Joined:
    May 7, 2015
    Messages:
    44,453
    Likes Received:
    38,480
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Vancouver, WA
    Cite the stat? Chandler was still a good defender. That lineup was also worse on offense with Millsap in there instead of Lyles.
     
  11. H.C.

    H.C. Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2013
    Messages:
    8,446
    Likes Received:
    8,728
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Jokic something, something triple double. Something something triple double.
    Westbrick something, something triple double. Something something triple double.

    Triple double something something something, triple double something something something.
    Playoffs. Triple double, something something.

    Signed - @HCP and apparently another poster in this thread.
     
    THE HCP and BonesJones like this.
  12. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

    Joined:
    May 7, 2015
    Messages:
    44,453
    Likes Received:
    38,480
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Vancouver, WA
    Herp-a-derp.

    Terple Derple.
     
  13. JDC

    JDC Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2008
    Messages:
    3,296
    Likes Received:
    3,116
    Trophy Points:
    113
    https://www.cleaningtheglass.com/st...n=1514&on=2631&on=1883&on=2530&all_or_any=all

    Actually underestimated. 97th percentile on O, 86th on D.

    They were were also slightly worse on O with Lyles + Jokic/Harris/Murray and fell to the 46th percentile on D.

    Plus minus numbers can be noisy, but look at the talent. You have arguably the best offensive center in Jokic alongside two highly efficient guards and a very good two-way PF. Jokic's defensive rebounding and ability to limit the # of attempts around the rim also help compensate for his bad pnr D and rim protection. Don't me wrong either, he's still below average on that end and his weaknesses will likely be more exposed in the playoffs.
     
    Last edited: Sep 3, 2018
  14. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

    Joined:
    May 7, 2015
    Messages:
    44,453
    Likes Received:
    38,480
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Vancouver, WA
    What does Millsap do good offensively other than pass? He's not efficient, and isn't a high clip scorer anymore. His defense has also regressed a lot. He's regressing. He'll be worse next year, and that's even if he's able to stay healthy.

    I don't understand how they can be good defensively with that lineup. They'll be worse with IT though. Teams are still learning to guard Jokic too.

    They'll be solid. But they shouldn't be considered above us until they actually do something.
     
    TorturedBlazerFan likes this.
  15. TorturedBlazerFan

    TorturedBlazerFan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2018
    Messages:
    19,824
    Likes Received:
    23,356
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Baby Daddy
    Location:
    Chasing my kids
    I agree with you a lot on denver. I think they’ll be fun to watch and should be able to put up some points, they also have a that mile high air that’s hard to adjust too.

    Maybe they’ll be better than I think, but overall they seem like just basically a solid team that may squeeze into the back of the playoffs, but they may not too.
     
  16. JDC

    JDC Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2008
    Messages:
    3,296
    Likes Received:
    3,116
    Trophy Points:
    113
    He's not inefficient either though.

    He can dribble, pass, and shoot at a solid level for a PF. Good IQ, sets solid screens, mid post option in late clock, can beat switches in the post.....

    And yes he's older, but he's also not a guy that relies on athleticism.
     
  17. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

    Joined:
    May 7, 2015
    Messages:
    44,453
    Likes Received:
    38,480
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Vancouver, WA
    He's an average shooter. His dribbling doesn't really open anything up and he's slowing down a little so I wouldn't say that's good either. He's becoming an average starting PF.
     
  18. JDC

    JDC Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2008
    Messages:
    3,296
    Likes Received:
    3,116
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Agree to disagree. He was a top 10 (arguably top 5) PF at age 31.

    First year with a new team last year and his injury was a freak one. 70 games of 33 year old Millsap is still worth 8-10 wins imo.
     
  19. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

    Joined:
    May 7, 2015
    Messages:
    44,453
    Likes Received:
    38,480
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Vancouver, WA
    8-10 wins?! Haha. So they're gonna be a 54-56 win team if Millsap plays 70 games?
     
  20. JDC

    JDC Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2008
    Messages:
    3,296
    Likes Received:
    3,116
    Trophy Points:
    113
    8-10 wins over a full season, yes. Last year he only played 39 so I think Denver missed out on 4 or so wins last year w/o him.
     

Share This Page