Sorry, but no way in hell is Andre 3000 a top 10 MC, I would go as far as saying not even top 20. Are Outkast great? Hell yes, but they're not the greatest thing to happen to Hip Hop.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Playmaker15:</div><div class="quote_post">Wasn't Andre scheduled to play Jimi Hendrix in an upcoming film?</div> ARE YOU SERIOUS? Where did you hear this? what film?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting NTC187:</div><div class="quote_post">Sorry, but no way in hell is Andre 3000 a top 10 MC, I would go as far as saying not even top 20. Are Outkast great? Hell yes, but they're not the greatest thing to happen to Hip Hop.</div> I don't think anyone rated Andre that high up. I may be wrong. They are truly this decades greatest duo though.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Franchise4Ever:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't think anyone rated Andre that high up. I may be wrong. They are truly this decades greatest duo though.</div> THE DREAM said Andre 3000 was easily one of the top 10 greatest rappers of all time, which isnt the case. I dont mean to downplay his ability, he is good, very good, but I can name more than 10 rappers who are/were better than Dre. Also you better be actually be talking about this decade, because Gang Starr owned the 90's.
^^^^Andre 3000 > Guru....and I love Gangstarr, but lets be honest Premo made Gangstarr, Guru's monotone voice can be kinda boring at times..I prefer Jeru or KRS One rockin a premo joint anyday.........I'm just interested in the "20" MCs who you think are better than Andre Ben....and I'm talkin on impact, lyrics, musically, creatively, performing live, consistency, etc.....and please don't say Big L (who only had 1 good album).....my top 10 looks something like this not neccesarily in this order 1. KRS One 2. Rakim 3. Ice Cube 4. Andre 3000 5. Nas 6. Common 7. Chuck D 8. Scarface 9. Kool G. Rap 10. 2 Pac (although a lot of people tend to overrate him I believe he belongs here) All the men I listed have had a huge impact, for the most part they consistently drop good albums, they're all creative, and they all have their musical classics honorable mentions: Black Thought, Ghostface, Biggie, Jay Z, Big Pun, Big Daddy Kane, etc.
Premo made Guru? Are you insane? They complement each other. Guru is a much more talented lyricist than Andre Benjamin ever was, or ever will be. The fact that Guru has a fairly plain voice, yet still manages to keep you captivated goes to show how talented of a lyricist he really is. Ten MC's better than Andre Benjamin (no order): 1. Guru 2. Rakim 3. Nas 4. Big L 5. Notorious B.I.G. 6. Kool G. Rap 7. Common 8. KRS One 9. Scarface 10. Jeru The Damaja
Guru a better lyricist than Andre Ben???....nah I can't say that, Andre drops jewels for days <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">No, I ain't never been pimped by the system That's because I ain't no slave Don't be tryin to sunbathe, never lived off in no cave Bloody old chap and in this head of mine is full of naps And the only thing I know is how to **** and how to rap? Y'all think I'm stupid cuz I shoots 'em up like cupid And if you gave me a basketball, I'll show you how to shoot it My head's polluted cause I'm zooted, bobbin to the bottom If a pair of Jordan's came out, y'all figure that I got 'em But no I don't because I don't be havin funds The gold that I am wearin is really made out of bronze It weighs a ton and makin my neck turn green And I got a criminal record that will never come clean Oh, and it seems that I make babies like a rabbit And then never taking care of them has just become a habit I grab my tablet and get busy with the pen Y'all could not be just like me if y'all was my twin So you get mad and try to make me inferior You pissin me off, I'm in that ass like interior Oh, step in my Cadillac, let's ride through the hood Eh, why don't you roll that window down so you can see it real good And take a look at all the pimps and all the pushers and the players That's livin on a whim, thin ice and a prayer Oh and mayor, can I get a little backup Please don't let them ***** muthaf***as put that flag up But let me shut up cause they say we need dough whenever the f**k out record comes out in 1994 </div> <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Dearly beloved we are gathered, like soap is to lather we come clean Some issues need to be addressed like envelopes I mean Oh like Liberty Bells yes them bullets keep on rangin On fire like the Georgia mass choir we keep on sangin Bringin our folks closer together cause they severed us from the get green Light and we ain't gon' stop until we hit the big screen Psych because no one is free when others are oppressed So, we hit the stage and then we fly back to our nest Growing old </div> <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Twice upon a time there was a boy who died twice and lived happily ever after but that's another chapter live from home of the brave with dirty dollars & beauty parlors & baby bottles & bowling ball Impalas & street scholars that's majoring in culinary arts You know how to work bread cheese & dough from scratch but see the catch is you can get caught Know what ya sellin' what ya bought so cut that big talk Let's walk to the bridge now meet me halfway now you may see some children dead off in the pathway it's them poor babies walkin' slowly to the candy lady It's lookin' bad need some hope like the words maybe, if, or probably more than a hobby when my turntables get wobbly they don't fall I'm sorry y'all I often drift I'm talkin' gift so when it comes you never look the horse inside it's grill of course you know I feel like the bearer of bad news Don't want to be it but it's needed so what have you Now question is every ***** with dreads for the cause? Is every ***** with golds for the fall? Naw So don't get caught in appearance it's Outkast Aquemini another Black experience</div> <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">My mind warps and bends floats the wind count to ten meet the twin Andre Ben. welcome to the lion's den original skin many men comprehend I extend myself so you go out & tell a friend Sin all depends on what you believing in Faith is what you make it that's the hardest **** since MC Ren Alien can blend right on in wit' yo' kin look again 'cause I swear I spot one every now & then It's happenin' again wish I could tell you when Andre this is Andre y'all just gon' have to make amends </div> <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Baby did you hear that yea baby I heard it too Look out the window golly the sky is electric blue Mamma Earth is dyin and cryin because of you Rainin cats and jackles all shackles disintegrate, to residue Silly mortals haven't a clue as to what the **** is goin on I'm on the telephone, dialin the Dungeon "Hello?" This Dre, bring the MP and the SP Meet me at the center of the earth and travel carefully Baby grab the baby cause baby it ain't much time Mamma Earth is tossin and turnin and that's our sign Omega ***** IFO's are landin in Decatur Hope I'm not over your head but if so you will catch on later Play the track, guess she could not take it anymo' Rapin her heavenly body like a hoe, coochie so' from niggaz constantly fuckin her never lovin her never showin appreciation bustin nuts in her face when they done </div> <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Me and everything around me, is unstable like Chernobyl Ready to go at any moment, jumpin like a pogo stick Life never lived up to my expectations, so I accept the patience Expect the worse but now I'm pacin, back and forth Inside I'm melting like water on wicked witches A monster truck done came and ran over my picket fences I had the best of life in my clinches but monkey wrenches was thrown Like chairs kings sit on, my prayers seem to long I fall asleep before the endin, don't even get to say AmenI hope He understand I be on bended knees At times, I think I'm crazy, so I say forget it Or maybe it's the devil infiltrating and like Riddick...Bowe I've been fighting this since them fetus days I count from one to twenty, when I'm through, repeat the phrase It's just a phase, it's gon all pass, but that gets old too I'm weakening like a deacon doin dirt What am I supposed to do? </div> <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Everybody wanna get signed, but (here to tell you) record companies act like pimps Gettin paid off what we made when we the ones that's fly like blimps But ain't no Goodyear, I tell it like it is so I'm like look here Just willin to get what I deserve my kids to have a mother and a little house, with a dog in the backyard goin "woof-woof" Who knows what I'ma say soon's I leave this recording booth Poof, back in the real world where birds fly From Miami by way of Cuba to whoever wants to get that high There's clouds of clowns, seas of G's Pro-jects, packed with playas meditating on their knees Just to make them ends meet, like ground beef, you won't believe The **** that niggaz attempt cause they got other mouths to feed besides they own </div> Guru is a dope lyricist, but his wordplay just isn't on that Andre 3000 level......and sorry homie Big L was a dope MC, but not dope enough to be top 10....he had one good album.......one....you can't be a top 10 MC, with one good album....I love Pun to death and honestly I think he would've lived on to be a top 10 MC, but similar to L he had one good album........one....and besides that Big L for the most part never really changed his subject matter up, Andre is a lot more versatile (so are Cube, Pac, Ice T, Ghostface, Blackthought, Mos Def, Chuck D, GZA, Redman, Lauryn Hill, etc.)....with the exception of L your top 10 is pretty straight though....and just for good measure this is my favorite Guru verse <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Peace to my man Hass, and Orange Man payin the cost All the twenty-five to lifers all my brothers gettin tossed into the system, supposed to rehabilitate It's why you gotta regulate your own mindstate Read, study lessons and build your inner power The next level, doesn't tolerate cowards For example, I know this rich Nigerian Powerful American that's proud to be an African He asked me why do all us brothers be gettin trapped I told him I'd explain it broke it down in a rap Whether you got naps, braids waves or no hair Without esteem for yourself *****, you goin nowhere And you can swagger like you rule this; Josey Wales unorganized revolt almost always mostly fails Give up the savage ways, be effective soldiers To elevate the mental is to be poor no more There's war in the streets, prepared men know best Our rhyme as live as it gets, JFK 2 LAX They're always makin trouble yo, against the righteous Killin us in cold blood, those beats those vipers And as I sit feelin the pain in my wrist I vow to myself that I'ma change this **** Or at least I gotta try, or part of me will die And only by action will any ideas solidify So I inhale, exhale as I ponder This grown man will make mistakes no longer I've been there, I've seen how they make us fall victim to their tricknowledgy, with no apology I diss em And so I rip facts to dope tracks I caress You're gonna hear about it, from JFK 2 LAX </div>
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting THE DREAM:</div><div class="quote_post">Guru a better lyricist than Andre Ben???....nah I can't say that, Andre drops jewels for days Guru is a dope lyricist, but his wordplay just isn't on that Andre 3000 level......and sorry homie Big L was a dope MC, but not dope enough to be top 10....he had one good album.......one....you can't be a top 10 MC, with one good album....I love Pun to death and honestly I think he would've lived on to be a top 10 MC, but similar to L he had one good album........one....and besides that Big L for the most part never really changed his subject matter up, Andre is a lot more versatile (so are Cube, Pac, Ice T, Ghostface, Blackthought, Mos Def, Chuck D, GZA, Redman, Lauryn Hill, etc.)....with the exception of L your top 10 is pretty straight though....and just for good measure this is my favorite Guru verse</div> You're right, Gurus wordplay isnt on Andre's level, its above it. Those verses you posted of his were good, but I've heard better from Guru and other artists. The parts you bolded out especially wernt anything special. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Oh, step in my Cadillac, let's ride through the hood Eh, why don't you roll that window down so you can see it real good</div> How thats a great verse is beyond me. Now onto the Big L debate. I hate when people say "oh so and so cant be a top MC because they only put out one album", thats rubbish in my book, if an MC is great, it doesnt matter how many albums they put out. Biggie only put out 1 good album aswell, yet 90% of Hip-Hop heads will put him in their top 10's. Big L actually released quite alot of material during his time, with all the D.I.T.C and C.O.C stuff aswell as solo material, he has quite a collection. Yes Big L rapped about the same subject matter most of the time, but to me thats not what made him so great, it was the way he spit. His use of wordplay, multies, metaphors, pace changing, freestyle ability etc. is what makes him a top 10 MC to me, because I cant find any other MC who could or can spit it like L could. The only person I can think of that comes close to L (in terms of what I mentioned above) is Mos Def.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">How thats a great verse is beyond me. Now onto the Big L debate. I hate when people say "oh so and so cant be a top MC because they only put out one album", thats rubbish in my book, if an MC is great, it doesnt matter how many albums they put out. Biggie only put out 1 good album aswell, yet 90% of Hip-Hop heads will put him in their top 10's. Big L actually released quite alot of material during his time, with all the D.I.T.C and C.O.C stuff aswell as solo material, he has quite a collection. Yes Big L rapped about the same subject matter most of the time, but to me thats not what made him so great, it was the way he spit. His use of wordplay, multies, metaphors, pace changing, freestyle ability etc. is what makes him a top 10 MC to me, because I cant find any other MC who could or can spit it like L could. The only person I can think of that comes close to L (in terms of what I mentioned above) is Mos Def.</div> The imagery of the verse made it great...just think of a guy (particulary a rich man) rollin through the hood in his expensive car with his windows rolled up....in a sense it's like he has no knowledge of what's going on....so when Andre says roll the window down, he's actually saying take the blinders off and experience it first hand yourself so you will no longer be ignorant to what really goes on.........that's the thing with great lyricism, it's a rhyme within a rhyme...something that can be simple can be sooooooooo complex if the listener wants to look deep enough. As far as Biggie goes he had 2 great albums and one of them was a double disc....so essentially 3 disc of material that we can judge him on when he was alive....L had lifestylez of the poor and dangerous....and that's it....and like you mentioned he was one dimensional for the most part....I'm a fan of L, but a top 10 MC imo should be able to switch is subject matter up from time to time....I will agree that he had a great flow, punches, freestyling ability, etc.....but so do Chino XL and Eminem (well the old Eminem), Canibus, Ras Kass, Redman and a bunch of other dudes who are imo better than L in some of those categories....L was a special talent, but artistically speaking he wasn't that creative or innovative like the rest of the people on my list....ATLiens, Death Certificate, It Takes A Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back, 36 Chambers, Miseducation of Lauryn Hill, Illadelph Halflife are just on another level musically and artistically than LSPD...and that's on a production, creative, and lyrical standpoint....I mentioned those albums because those artist (Cube, Andre, Chuck D, Lauryn Hill, Black Thought, GZA and Ghostface) were left off of your list in place of Big L.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting THE DREAM:</div><div class="quote_post">^^^^Andre 3000 > Guru....and I love Gangstarr, but lets be honest Premo made Gangstarr, Guru's monotone voice can be kinda boring at times..I prefer Jeru or KRS One rockin a premo joint anyday.........I'm just interested in the "20" MCs who you think are better than Andre Ben....and I'm talkin on impact, lyrics, musically, creatively, performing live, consistency, etc.....and please don't say Big L (who only had 1 good album).....my top 10 looks something like this not neccesarily in this order 1. KRS One 2. Rakim 3. Ice Cube 4. Andre 3000 5. Nas 6. Common 7. Chuck D 8. Scarface 9. Kool G. Rap 10. 2 Pac (although a lot of people tend to overrate him I believe he belongs here) All the men I listed have had a huge impact, for the most part they consistently drop good albums, they're all creative, and they all have their musical classics honorable mentions: Black Thought, Ghostface, Biggie, Jay Z, Big Pun, Big Daddy Kane, etc.</div> I agree with everything you say except for WHERE IS THE LOVE FOR KWELI? In my mind he is top 10 alltime and better than Common and Black Thought (who are both still Gods of hiphop). Big L was very good, but he wouldn't even crack the top 30 alltime over guys like Kurupt and Ras Kass. Face it, he's given more props cause he's dead. It's good to see you rate Ice Cube and Andre as the great artists they are. And Ghostface is the best wu rapper, well said. how do you like Fishscale?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting THE DREAM:</div><div class="quote_post">The imagery of the verse made it great...just think of a guy (particulary a rich man) rollin through the hood in his expensive car with his windows rolled up....in a sense it's like he has no knowledge of what's going on....so when Andre says roll the window down, he's actually saying take the blinders off and experience it first hand yourself so you will no longer be ignorant to what really goes on.........that's the thing with great lyricism, it's a rhyme within a rhyme...something that can be simple can be sooooooooo complex if the listener wants to look deep enough.</div> The thing is though, that piece was only deep because you had to pick it apart and find the meaning for yourself, to me, a great MC tells you the story or the message, and doesnt need you to sit there and pull it apart for yourself, potentially finding messages or meanings that arnt there. You know, dont get me wrong, I love Outkast, I'm listening to "Aquenimi" as I type this, I just cant see Andre Benjamin as a top 10 MC, not with the other talent out there. Just for the record, that wasnt my official top 10 I posted, it was just 10 MC's who I think are better than Andre Benjamin. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting THE DREAM:</div><div class="quote_post">As far as Biggie goes he had 2 great albums and one of them was a double disc....so essentially 3 disc of material that we can judge him on when he was alive....L had lifestylez of the poor and dangerous....and that's it....and like you mentioned he was one dimensional for the most part....I'm a fan of L, but a top 10 MC imo should be able to switch is subject matter up from time to time....I will agree that he had a great flow, punches, freestyling ability, etc.....but so do Chino XL and Eminem (well the old Eminem), Canibus, Ras Kass, Redman and a bunch of other dudes who are imo better than L in some of those categories....L was a special talent, but artistically speaking he wasn't that creative or innovative like the rest of the people on my list....ATLiens, Death Certificate, It Takes A Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back, 36 Chambers, Miseducation of Lauryn Hill, Illadelph Halflife are just on another level musically and artistically than LSPD...and that's on a production, creative, and lyrical standpoint....I mentioned those albums because those artist (Cube, Andre, Chuck D, Lauryn Hill, Black Thought, GZA and Ghostface) were left off of your list in place of Big L.</div> "Life After Death" was a poor album compared to "Ready To Die", most (and I've seen alot of people say this) would agree it wasnt a great. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting phunDamentalz:</div><div class="quote_post">I agree with everything you say except for WHERE IS THE LOVE FOR KWELI? In my mind he is top 10 alltime and better than Common and Black Thought (who are both still Gods of hiphop). Big L was very good, but he wouldn't even crack the top 30 alltime over guys like Kurupt and Ras Kass. Face it, he's given more props cause he's dead. It's good to see you rate Ice Cube and Andre as the great artists they are. And Ghostface is the best wu rapper, well said. how do you like Fishscale?</div> lol, Big L wouldnt even crack the top 30 all time? and Kurupt would? LOL. He isnt given more props because he's dead, he's given props because he was good. He wasnt a political rapper, he rarely had a message, but he could rip you apart with his sick use of lyrical abilities. If you're listening to L and expecting some sort of political backing or message, then of course you're going to be dissapointed, but if you're listening to his wordplay, metaphors, multies, punches, freestyles etc. then you should be impressed. Although I rate Mos Def higher, I agree about Talib Kweli, I think he is quite underated. I wouldnt call Ghostface the best member of the Clan either, GZA has him beat lyrically, and I'm feeling Raekwons flow more. But if you like Wu, you should check out Sunz Of Man.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">"Life After Death" was a poor album compared to "Ready To Die", most (and I've seen alot of people say this) would agree it wasnt a great. </div> I like Ready 2 Die more, and LAD is somewhat overrated imo, but I wouldn't call it "poor"...it was still a pretty damn good album. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The thing is though, that piece was only deep because you had to pick it apart and find the meaning for yourself, to me, a great MC tells you the story or the message, and doesnt need you to sit there and pull it apart for yourself, potentially finding messages or meanings that arnt there. You know, dont get me wrong, I love Outkast, I'm listening to "Aquenimi" as I type this, I just cant see Andre Benjamin as a top 10 MC, not with the other talent out there. Just for the record, that wasnt my official top 10 I posted, it was just 10 MC's who I think are better than Andre Benjamin. </div> To each his own....I just think it takes a lot more talent to drop subtle jewels than to just spit punchlines (although I like both)......when something simple can be broken down into so much that's great.....L might say something like "Ask Beavis I gettin nothing "butt" head"....which is an ill ass punchline, but you can't really break that down, because in a sense it is what it is. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I agree with everything you say except for WHERE IS THE LOVE FOR KWELI? In my mind he is top 10 alltime and better than Common and Black Thought (who are both still Gods of hiphop). Big L was very good, but he wouldn't even crack the top 30 alltime over guys like Kurupt and Ras Kass. Face it, he's given more props cause he's dead. It's good to see you rate Ice Cube and Andre as the great artists they are. And Ghostface is the best wu rapper, well said. how do you like Fishscale?</div> I love Talib but he's fell off as of late, I was just listening to Beautiful Struggle a couple of weeks ago, and that album is just flat out bad.....Talib would make my top 50....but Com and Blackthought have been more consistent. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">lol, Big L wouldnt even crack the top 30 all time? and Kurupt would? LOL. He isnt given more props because he's dead, he's given props because he was good. He wasnt a political rapper, he rarely had a message, but he could rip you apart with his sick use of lyrical abilities. If you're listening to L and expecting some sort of political backing or message, then of course you're going to be dissapointed, but if you're listening to his wordplay, metaphors, multies, punches, freestyles etc. then you should be impressed</div> L might crack top 30 on my list, the thing is like you mentioned for the most part he was a battle rapper with a good voice, lyrics, punches, etc....and that's all good because that's a huge part of the culture, but musically speaking???....nah LSPD isn't one of the greatest hip hop albums.....KRS One can battle, but he still can switch his subject matter up from time to time....all the people I listed in my top 10 I believe are well rounded and not good at just one aspect of MCing.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting THE DREAM:</div><div class="quote_post"> I love Talib but he's fell off as of late, I was just listening to Beautiful Struggle a couple of weeks ago, and that album is just flat out bad.....Talib would make my top 50....but Com and Blackthought have been more consistent. </div> yeah B.Struggle is a dud, but for Black Star, Reflection Eternal and Quality and all his guest appearances where he typically owns everyone in the room for me put him into the top 10. No rapper alive has made me think more than TK so that right there says a lot. The bad part is i just was walking down the street in Manhattan past a Roots/Kweli concert that just happened, people filing out. Can't believe I missed that show. From the sounds of the new stuff, Kweli is BACK. They were handing out Roots samplers for free on the street so i grabbed one.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting THE DREAM:</div><div class="quote_post">To each his own....I just think it takes a lot more talent to drop subtle jewels than to just spit punchlines (although I like both)......when something simple can be broken down into so much that's great.....L might say something like "Ask Beavis I gettin nothing "butt" head"....which is an ill ass punchline, but you can't really break that down, because in a sense it is what it is.</div> My point is this, take "Candy Shop" by 50 Cent, the verse "I'll take you to the Candy Shop" in particular, now I can just sit here and pick apart why I think its a good verse, but that verse only becomes good once I do that. A good verse should hit you straight away, straight from the artists mouth. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting THE DREAM:</div><div class="quote_post">L might crack top 30 on my list, the thing is like you mentioned for the most part he was a battle rapper with a good voice, lyrics, punches, etc....and that's all good because that's a huge part of the culture, but musically speaking???....nah LSPD isn't one of the greatest hip hop albums.....KRS One can battle, but he still can switch his subject matter up from time to time....all the people I listed in my top 10 I believe are well rounded and not good at just one aspect of MCing.</div> I didnt say L was a battle rapper, I cant even remember seeing or hearing about L battling anyone. He was excellent at all the aspects that make a great MC, he just didnt come at you with any political messages or anything like that.
Good thing it was only a rumour..and you can't blame them, Andre has been taking the acting business for some time now. Outkast is one of my fav groups, and I can't wait to get the new CD.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">My point is this, take "Candy Shop" by 50 Cent, the verse "I'll take you to the Candy Shop" in particular, now I can just sit here and pick apart why I think its a good verse, but that verse only becomes good once I do that. A good verse should hit you straight away, straight from the artists mouth.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting THE DREAM:</div><div class="quote_post">lol man you can't compare 50 Cent's lyricism to Andre 3000...it's not even close</div> Well obviously, but my point is, you can make any old verse have meaning if you sit there and pick it apart like the one you had to do that I was refering to. A great verse shouldnt have to be picked apart for it to have true meaning. As for the second part of your post, i'll drop it, its your opinion after all, and I highly doubt my views are going to change it.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Well obviously, but my point is, you can make any old verse have meaning if you sit there and pick it apart like the one you had to do that I was refering to. A great verse shouldnt have to be picked apart for it to have true meaning. </div> lol, no you can't there is nothing to pick apart in that candy shop verse.....I can do the same thing that I did with Andre's verse with Nas, Rakim, KRS One, Common, etc. who all drop A LOT of subtle jewels of knowledge....they are all lyricists.....50 Cent is a rapper who writes catchy hooks.......no comparison....I never said all great verses have to be picked apart to have true meanings, but a MC that can have hidden and deeper meanings in their songs are extremely gifted........prime example "One Mic" by Nas...in the 2nd verse Nas is talking about his career as an MC, he doesn't come out and say it, but if you really decipher his rhymes to get the point of that song.
