<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AGGiE @ Feb 18 2008, 10:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That's the large 1.6 million trade exception?</div> That's it? I thought there was a 2.6 million trade exception from the AJ trade. What happened?
oh no, KVH fails the physical, deal can't be done!! I kid. I'm rather wordless at the moment. You think we'll see our new lineup on Wednesday?
No more 2nd round pick? In both Dave D and Fred Kerber's newest articles there no word of the 2nd rounder.
Van Horn back in a nets uniform. I thought I would never be able to say that again. Is Kerry Kittles coming out of retirement too?
My first post.... Just thought that I for one can't beleive that there are so many people doubting this trade for dallas. Kidd is actually gonna make them a ver viable contender. Our team without kidd against the raptors legitimatley looked like a bunch of 2nd graders who didnt know what they were doing.....(hence the blowout)
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Piff Daddy @ Feb 18 2008, 10:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>My first post.... Just thought that I for one can't beleive that there are so many people doubting this trade for dallas. Kidd is actually gonna make them a ver viable contender. Our team without kidd against the raptors legitimatley looked like a bunch of 2nd graders who didnt know what they were doing.....(hence the blowout)</div> Welcome to S2! PM me or any other mods if you have any questions. Hope you stick around.
KEITH... VAAAAN HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORN. I hope he sticks around. I've gotten nostalgic. Seriously though guys: <div><object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/7sK9-hEIsG4&"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/7sK9-hEIsG4&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350" /></embed></object></div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Piff Daddy @ Feb 18 2008, 10:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>My first post.... Just thought that I for one can't beleive that there are so many people doubting this trade for dallas. Kidd is actually gonna make them a ver viable contender. Our team without kidd against the raptors legitimatley looked like a bunch of 2nd graders who didnt know what they were doing.....(hence the blowout)</div> Hey Daddy! Welcome to S2. If you have any questions about the site send me a PM. That raptors game looked pretty grim, but perhaps we would have made it more competative with Devin et al, and without Team Bust: Malik and Antoine
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Piff Daddy @ Feb 18 2008, 10:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>My first post.... Just thought that I for one can't beleive that there are so many people doubting this trade for dallas. Kidd is actually gonna make them a ver viable contender. Our team without kidd against the raptors legitimatley looked like a bunch of 2nd graders who didnt know what they were doing.....(hence the blowout)</div> Welcome to S2 piff, PM me if you have any questions or concerns. On paper it should vault the Mavericks to the next level, up there with the Suns, Spurs, Hornets, or a healthy Laker team. However, it's important to keep in mind they gave up alot, especially Devin Harris, who could defend the Paul's, the Nash's, and the Parker's in the West, the three fastest point gaurds in this league, and Kidd really hasn't been the same for some time unfortunately defensively, not even as good as two years ago when he was first team All-NBA defense. They need a backup center as well. Diop bought defense and shot-blocking, and if you're going up against Duncan, Gasol, Amare, Shaq, etc. you're going to need a low post defender. We shall see, either way. However, I think it's clear the Nets got the best deal, even better than I expected, for a 35 year old point gaurd. I know there's been a lot of criticism aimed at Thorn for poorly constructing this team, but he deserves kudos for this.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ZAE @ Feb 18 2008, 10:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No more 2nd round pick? In both Dave D and Fred Kerber's newest articles there no word of the 2nd rounder.</div> Well, there's no mention of the 1st round picks in Dave's article, either. Who knows. http://njmg.typepad.com/zzone/2008/02/vans-the-man.html Al doesn't include the 2nd rounder, either. http://blogs.nypost.com/sports/nets/archiv...ening.html#more <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The Mavs get Kidd, Malik Allen Malik Allen and Antoine Wright Antoine Wright . The Nets get Devin Harris, DeSagana Diop, Trenton Hassell, Maurice Ager and Keith Van Horn after a sign and trade, plus two first rounders, $3 million cash and a couple trade exceptions.</div> TWO trade exceptions? Well, if one's 1.6 mil for Antoine, what about the other exception? Would that be the remaining amount from the AJ deal for Malik Allen, or a "large" exception, like NI said?
If the Mavs are going to all offense, they need a Don Nelson type of coach. Avery's philosophy is all about defense. The team right now just lost its two best defenders.
Jason Kidd, the guy who got me into basketball i remember just just getting onto basketball in 5th grade and watching him play againt the spurs in the finials. just watch this guy, how much he loves to compete, how he always wants to win, and how he played every night had me addicted to basketball ever since. its gonna be sad seeing my favorite player leave but he left at the right time and i hope he can finally get a championship.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Piff Daddy @ Feb 18 2008, 10:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>My first post.... Just thought that I for one can't beleive that there are so many people doubting this trade for dallas. Kidd is actually gonna make them a ver viable contender. Our team without kidd against the raptors legitimatley looked like a bunch of 2nd graders who didnt know what they were doing.....(hence the blowout)</div> I'm sure you're sick of hearing this, but...Welcome to S2, Piff! All I gotta say is, for one thing, I hope Devean George never receives one pass from Jason Kidd. And I can't wait to see the Nets face the Mavs again. Also, I hope Van Horn actually puts on a uni, and maybe even plays. That would be sick. Lastly, I can't wait to see Dallas get pwned by the Lakers, Spurs, and Suns.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real @ Feb 18 2008, 11:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Welcome to S2 piff, PM me if you have any questions or concerns. On paper it should vault the Mavericks to the next level, up there with the Suns, Spurs, Hornets, or a healthy Laker team. However, it's important to keep in mind they gave up alot, especially Devin Harris, who could defend the Paul's, the Nash's, and the Parker's in the West, the three fastest point gaurds in this league, and Kidd really hasn't been the same for some time unfortunately defensively, not even as good as two years ago when he was first team All-NBA defense. They need a backup center as well. Diop bought defense and shot-blocking, and if you're going up against Duncan, Gasol, Amare, Shaq, etc. you're going to need a low post defender. We shall see, either way. However, I think it's clear the Nets got the best deal, even better than I expected, for a 35 year old point gaurd. I know there's been a lot of criticism aimed at Thorn for poorly constructing this team, but he deserves kudos for this.</div> I think the trade's a total coup for us, but I also think Kidd's about to hit a sharp decline. If nothing else, we're going to be a LOT better defensively. Harris is a much better on the ball defender than Kidd, and Diop is a monster in the paint. If the Violent Brothers can step up and replace what we lost in Kidd's help defense and rebounding, at least one aspect of the team should improve. With that said, our offense is about to tank big time. Hope you're healthy Vince, cause you're gonna have to carry the team. Don't know if anyone reads Bill Simmons, but I think this Kidd situation has serious Ewing/Tiki Barber Theory potential.
Sorry guys! I hate to say this but, kidd's chances of gettin' a ring are done.Dallas is full of softies.I dont see em pass the 2nd round.Really disappointed,ya REALLY.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Republican @ Feb 18 2008, 10:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Sorry guys! I hate to say this but, kidd's chances of gettin' a ring are done.Dallas is full of softies.I dont see em pass the 2nd round.Really disappointed,ya REALLY.</div> In the west... it should be considered an accomplishment to get to the 2nd round. If it was the east it would be a different story. Everyone knows the teams Lakers, Mavs, Suns, Spurs, Nuggets, Jazz, Hornets... list goes on and on... i think Houston is like 13 games over .500 and theyre the odd man out.
Thundercats Are Go! <div><object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/2Qd_IsxgAf8&"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/2Qd_IsxgAf8&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350" /></embed></object></div>
Though I'm glad to see such a great player finally have a chance to win it all, this is going to get worse (for the nets) before it gets any better, so I'm not going to expect much out of this team for a while
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Piff Daddy @ Feb 18 2008, 10:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Republican @ Feb 18 2008, 10:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Sorry guys! I hate to say this but, kidd's chances of gettin' a ring are done.Dallas is full of softies.I dont see em pass the 2nd round.Really disappointed,ya REALLY.</div> In the west... it should be considered an accomplishment to get to the 2nd round. If it was the east it would be a different story. Everyone knows the teams Lakers, Mavs, Suns, Spurs, Nuggets, Jazz, Hornets... list goes on and on... i think Houston is like 13 games over .500 and theyre the odd man out. </div> Yeah but you don't morgage your future so you can acquire Jason Kidd at 35 years old to make the second round. I can't see this as anything but a disappointment if they don't win it all.
