<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tko51)</div><div class='quotemain'>No, I'm saying that he's already better then Bledsoe</div> Wow you no some people could make a case for Bledsoe as a Hall of Famer when it's all said and done and JP is already better. hmmmmmm again tko use some logic. L-O-G-I-C Please???
Bledsoe has proven he is able to lead a team, If the BIlls had some form of an O-line last year then he most likely would of put up much better numbers. He's a very smart classic Pocket Passer with a heck of an arm, Losman has the potential but he'd better pray that he's half the QB that Bledsoe is.
Bledsoe is a good veteran that every game you have a chance to win. But Losman is gonna get eaten up by good defenses next year
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (panthersare#1)</div><div class='quotemain'>Bledsoe right now is gonna do better next year then Losman. Because Losman is bascially a rookie</div> You guys look at things differently then I do - when we got Bledsoe, I was excited as all hell because Bledsoe's arm is among the strongest in the league, and he was a fairly safe prediction to make the Probowl year in and year out. He (at the time) had a knack for putting up big numbers. But Bledsoe is NOT the same QB he was for New England when we got him. Look at last year's stats - there were times when he failed to pass for over 200 yards (more then once) - look at the Minnesota game we played in week two of the year we first got him he passes for over 400 yards, then he struggles this year with some of the mediocre to crappy D's we faced (like Oakland) - he's not consistent at all - sure he can pick apart some mediocre to crappy D's (on a good day), but who can't? (well, besides the 9ers and Browns starting QBs last year). My point in saying that Losman is (sorry, will be) better is validated when I can't count on all my fingers and toes the number of times Bledsoe can be directly accused of losing games for us with one single play because it has been too many times - if you'd like, I can gladly put a list together if it will make you guys quit kissing Bledsoe's @$$. I have nothing against the guy, he's been nothing but a class act for us. I've just come to realize that he's not cut out for Buffalo and his best days have been behind him for about 2-3 years now. I couldn't have asked for Bledsoe to go to a more hated team then the cowboys after back to back superbowl losses to those felons. Just off the top of my mind, Bledsoe took away our last fighting chance against New England this year when we played them at our place, he single handedly gave the Steelers the game in the regular season finale, he threw an INT when he intended to hit Peerless Price at K.C. in his first year with us, and in our 6-10 season, after week 2 he was just horrible - we lost to the Texans with him at the helm in OUR OWN HOUSE - there's no excuse for that. One more thing, I'd like to say that JP Losman has going for him - you guys say our O-line sucks and this and that negative about our line - chew on this - before Jim McNally got here, our line gave up 54 (Bledsoe's first season) 51 (the 6-10 season - Gregg Williams' last season coaching us) and in McNally's first year 38 sacks - that is a dramatic improvement (especially with Bledsoe behind center last year) and I expect it to be even better this year with a mobile Losman taking the snaps. Losman is the Anti-Bledsoe - and everything points to it - he's mobile, he's got just as good of an arm (he's even more accurate then Bledsoe on short passes from what I've heard out of camp), he holds the record at tulane for the lowest interception percentage all time (I know I'm gonna draw some criticism for that, let me try to diffuse it before it gets posted - yeah, I know that won't necessarily follow him to this level, but keep in mind he is practicing against the leagues #2 D that happened to be #1 in takeaways last season, and it took him over a week to throw his first INT in training camp - You can't tell me that that wouldn't make you optimistic). there is one good thing that may come from Bledsoe being on our team and that is that we (potentially) will no longer let any QBs wear the #11 - after the RJ Debacle then Bledsoe, hell even Norwood wore 11 - maybe it's gonna be anyone that will send the ball through the air downfield (Roscoe Parrish is wearing it right now, but he has been looking really sharp for us and he's not a QB or a kicker/punter).
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tko51)</div><div class='quotemain'>No, I'm saying that he's already better then Bledsoe</div> Wow you no some people could make a case for Bledsoe as a Hall of Famer when it's all said and done and JP is already better. hmmmmmm again tko use some logic. L-O-G-I-C Please???</div> Bledsoe will not be a first balloter - I GUARANTEE IT + the guy's a quarterback - they get PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT!!!! Honestly Bledsoe has a strong case working against him getting in the Hall of Fame too.
Losmans next season is gonna be like Kyle Boller in his 1st year of starting. So dont expect him to pass for 3500 yards and 25 TDs, its just not gonna happen. And Boller had a better defense and running game in his 1st year of starting than the Bills will have next year. Both QBs were drafted in the mid to late 1st round and both great GMs gave up next years pick for the QB they wanted. Kyle Boller and JP Losman are gonna have basically exact same 1st year starting years. Boller is gonna have a good next season because he has experience, Losman will be good in a couple of years also but dont expect so much out of Losman his 1st year. If not saying hes a bad QB, im trying to say is that he needs a lot more experience to get to the level of Quarterbacking that you think he will be.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bleedblk&gld)</div><div class='quotemain'>J.P. Losman ? 2,900 yds 17 td 11 int 55.7 comp% 83.9 rating</div> I dont see him getting a rating of 83.9. Carson Palmer who has a lot more skill then losman and they both were in there 2nd year without starting a game, had 18 TDs and 18 INTS 77.3 rating.
How do you know that Carson Palmer has a lot more 'skill'? When has Losman ever had a line in front of him - certainly not at Tulane - the line he's gonna have in front of him this year will be the best he's ever had.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JustBry07)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tko51)</div><div class='quotemain'>No, I'm saying that he's already better then Bledsoe</div> Woah man. I thought you were going over the top with some of the things you said before but after that statement I know you're just crazy! </div> I love it when people that don't watch Bills games try to tell me (who just so happened to see every bills game last season except for the Jets road game, the Seahawks, Rams, and Cardinals games) basically that I'm underrating Bledsoe.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tko51)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JustBry07)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tko51)</div><div class='quotemain'>No, I'm saying that he's already better then Bledsoe</div> Woah man. I thought you were going over the top with some of the things you said before but after that statement I know you're just crazy! </div> I love it when people that don't watch Bills games try to tell me (who just so happened to see every bills game last season except for the Jets road game, the Seahawks, Rams, and Cardinals games) basically that I'm underrating Bledsoe.</div> I don't need to watch every Bills game to know that Losman isn't better than Bledsoe. I'm not saying that Losman could never be better, but as of now there is no way. You are saying a rookie QB with hardly any experience in the NFL is better than a proven starting QB. Come on now, that just isn't logical.
I think I see what TKO is saying, and there is something valid to it. Correct me if I'm wrong, TKO, but it seems like you are trying to say that at this point, Losman is a better fit with the Bills than Bledsoe would be - at this point in time. If you are actually saying that pound for pound, Losman is a better QB than Bledsoe, then I will have to agree with everyone else that you are of the most optimistic hometeam fans I've ever seen. At this point in Losman's career, there is no way we can say that he is better than Bledsoe. As his career moves on, who knows...there just simply isn't enough information. On top of that, Bledsoe has had quite an incredible career...
except he can't win the big one, and all he is is a stationary cannon that gets diffused too often (last season was a credit to our o line as much as it was Mularkey having to pound it into his head that he needs to get rid of the ball sooner.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vikingfan)</div><div class='quotemain'>I think I see what TKO is saying, and there is something valid to it. Correct me if I'm wrong, TKO, but it seems like you are trying to say that at this point, Losman is a better fit with the Bills than Bledsoe would be - at this point in time. If you are actually saying that pound for pound, Losman is a better QB than Bledsoe, then I will have to agree with everyone else that you are of the most optimistic hometeam fans I've ever seen. At this point in Losman's career, there is no way we can say that he is better than Bledsoe. As his career moves on, who knows...there just simply isn't enough information. On top of that, Bledsoe has had quite an incredible career...</div> In a way yes, but what I'm saying is that Bledsoe contributed to a ton of negative plays resulting in us facing a lot of third and longs instead of 3rd and 5 and less to go. the less ground you have to cover to get a new set of downs, the better your chances are at getting that new set of downs. Losman will eliminate a lot of that and make us even more deadly in the redzone (where Bledsoe was absolutely horrible for us in his last two seasons - his first year, we were at the top of the league during the first half of the season) because of the added dimension his mobility will bring to the table.
I have been skimming these posts and have concluded that one person don't no what he is talking about. Losman isn't Brett Faver or Drew Bledsoe yet in his career and he'll struggle. I like the situation he has been put into with a great offense but he has no experience and the AFC is gonna overtake the Bills this year. The Ravens,Bengals,Cheifs,Jets,Steelers,Pats.Jags,Colts and Chargers are all gonna finish ahead of the Bills. They have a very slim shot at the playoffs this year.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tko51)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tko51)</div><div class='quotemain'>No, I'm saying that he's already better then Bledsoe</div> Wow you no some people could make a case for Bledsoe as a Hall of Famer when it's all said and done and JP is already better. hmmmmmm again tko use some logic. L-O-G-I-C Please???</div> Bledsoe will not be a first balloter - I GUARANTEE IT + the guy's a quarterback - they get PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT!!!! Honestly Bledsoe has a strong case working against him getting in the Hall of Fame too.</div> Uhm I never said he would be a first ballot HOF now did I. Please put on your reading glasses the next time you read posts. I said some people could make a case for him to make it. Thanks, porky88
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tko51)</div><div class='quotemain'>In a way yes, but what I'm saying is that Bledsoe contributed to a ton of negative plays resulting in us facing a lot of third and longs instead of 3rd and 5 and less to go. the less ground you have to cover to get a new set of downs, the better your chances are at getting that new set of downs. Losman will eliminate a lot of that and make us even more deadly in the redzone (where Bledsoe was absolutely horrible for us in his last two seasons - his first year, we were at the top of the league during the first half of the season) because of the added dimension his mobility will bring to the table.</div> Correct me if I'm wrong, but mobile QB's often have larger tackle's for losses than an immobile QB. Because they are more likely to scramble, they get caught too often far behind the line. Also, Marino suffered from many of the same things that you are saying Bledsoe suffers from (not winning a championship, not mobile, etc.), but I think there is a strong case to annoint him the best QB ever (I personally rank him 2nd or 3rd).
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vikingfan)</div><div class='quotemain'> Correct me if I'm wrong, but mobile QB's often have larger tackle's for losses than an immobile QB. Because they are more likely to scramble, they get caught too often far behind the line. </div> I totally agree your leaders besides poor david carr.... Vick - 46 sacks Culpepper - 46 sacks Then there is Brady who has a sun dial 40 time.. 26sacks...or Manning who is at his worst on the move with 13 sacks...
