Lost My Job Today

Discussion in 'Blazers OT Forum' started by ABM, Oct 9, 2008.

  1. AgentDrazenPetrovic

    AgentDrazenPetrovic Anyone But the Lakers

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    7,779
    Likes Received:
    34
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    LAX
    I'm a republican and I outsource! :ghoti:

    (edit: technically, when you go out of the country, its called offshoring...outsourcing could be domestic).
     
  2. Tortimer

    Tortimer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2008
    Messages:
    2,861
    Likes Received:
    72
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Seaside, Oregon
    I'm not sure in this case but I can tell you that Portland political leaders are very anti business which is what is needed to create more and jobs. I can't see very many large or even mid size businesses moving into Portland and it has nothing to do with republicans.
     
  3. AgentDrazenPetrovic

    AgentDrazenPetrovic Anyone But the Lakers

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    7,779
    Likes Received:
    34
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    LAX
    keep the country, country!
     
  4. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    May 24, 2007
    Messages:
    72,976
    Likes Received:
    10,655
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Never lost a case
    Location:
    Boston Legal
    That would have been Petey. Lucky he didn't take the whole car. He threatens to take mine all the time.

    :lol:
     
  5. Petey

    Petey Super Sized Sexy, The Bulls Fan Killer! Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2007
    Messages:
    4,042
    Likes Received:
    9
    Trophy Points:
    38
    No one believes that. You drive a Prius.

    -Petey
     
  6. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    28,291
    Likes Received:
    5,854
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Merchant Banker
    Location:
    Denver, CO & Lake Oswego, OR
    Pay less taxes? Heck you get a rebate for taxes you never paid. It's a pretty sweet gig if you ask me.
     
  7. AgentDrazenPetrovic

    AgentDrazenPetrovic Anyone But the Lakers

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    7,779
    Likes Received:
    34
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    LAX
    mccain actually proposed to not tax unemployment benefits. I find it funny that government taxes unemployment benefits at all. what a fucked up system we have.
     
  8. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    28,291
    Likes Received:
    5,854
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Merchant Banker
    Location:
    Denver, CO & Lake Oswego, OR
    It makes sense if you assume that someone will eventually get off unemployment, as the unemployment counts as taxable income for that year. And it makes a difference if you get off UE and make $50K the rest of the year or make $300K.
     
  9. AgentDrazenPetrovic

    AgentDrazenPetrovic Anyone But the Lakers

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    7,779
    Likes Received:
    34
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    LAX
    Yeah, there is widespread abuse in unemployment benefits. I'm a republican, I can only assume they're all moochers!
     
  10. The_Lillard_King

    The_Lillard_King Westside

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    12,405
    Likes Received:
    310
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Interesting that you make this statement in a thread where poeple have posted they lost their jobs. Today in the paper they announced freightliner is closing in Oregon and 700 people losing their jobs . . . many of them young family parents who rely on their monthly paycheck to make ends meet.

    Do you think these freightliner workers are moochers when they apply for unemployment?
     
  11. AgentDrazenPetrovic

    AgentDrazenPetrovic Anyone But the Lakers

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    7,779
    Likes Received:
    34
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    LAX
    No. I was being facetious.
     
  12. AgentDrazenPetrovic

    AgentDrazenPetrovic Anyone But the Lakers

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    7,779
    Likes Received:
    34
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    LAX
    When are the cuts happening?

    Severence Packages? I hear you ';re supposed to get 2 weeks pay for every year you've been at the company? is that standard?
     
  13. AgentDrazenPetrovic

    AgentDrazenPetrovic Anyone But the Lakers

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    7,779
    Likes Received:
    34
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    LAX
    job cuts suck though. I just know firsthand experience of people who have abused the unemployment system...mainly several ex-coworkers.
     
  14. hasoos

    hasoos Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    9,418
    Likes Received:
    97
    Trophy Points:
    48
    That is true. So how is it that creating jobs in the alternative energy field would be a bad thing? We are always going to need energy. We are always going to need transportation that uses alternative fuels once it is established.

    Secondly I would point out, that a lot of the jobs that are being lost, are not being lost due to factories "shutting down due to lack of business". They are shutting down due to the jobs being shipped to other countries.

    Today Freightliner shut down it's Portland production plant and sent the jobs to Mexico.

    Now that being said, you look at what the two canidates have said they would do, one of the things Obama says he would do is give tax credits to companies that keep jobs here, and produce jobs here. $3000 per job. John McCain on the otherhand, has said he will just give them a tax break period, with no incentive. They get it if they keep jobs here, or ship them overseas.

    Which one makes sense to you?
     
  15. AgentDrazenPetrovic

    AgentDrazenPetrovic Anyone But the Lakers

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    7,779
    Likes Received:
    34
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    LAX

    What makes sense is having businesses run as efficiently as possible. Again, I am an individual that offshores work and markets offshored work to small business in order to cut down costs. So obviously, I do not hold much credence in the blind creation of jobs in the USA. Clinton put forth job creation programs, and I believe that much of the overhiring was partly to blame for the dot-bomb boom. Too many people with too many stupid ideas, and eventually too many layoffs.

    What will tend to happen is companies will get tax write offs, then eventually as the employees are not as profitable, they will eliminate them down the line as they realize that the American Worker truly is not the best in the world. Then they have to deal with Unions and all that other bullshit.
     
    Last edited: Oct 15, 2008
  16. MARIS61

    MARIS61 Real American

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    28,007
    Likes Received:
    5,012
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    retired Yankee
    Location:
    Beautiful Central Oregon
    If by "anti-business" you mean they don't think taxpayers should subsidize most businesses then you have a point.

    If you mean something else, then, well...you probably don't.:dunno:
     
  17. Tortimer

    Tortimer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2008
    Messages:
    2,861
    Likes Received:
    72
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Seaside, Oregon
    Yes on your first point and especially in today's economy there is no way a business will move here with the Oregon tax structure without some incentives. I know it doesn't sound fair but that is just how it works and if the taxpayers don't want to pay then there will be more businesses moving out and none or very few moving in.
    I also think the current mayor doesn't help. You need a mayor that will kiss the businesses ass and know how to work with them.
     
  18. tlongII

    tlongII Legendary Poster

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    17,101
    Likes Received:
    11,723
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Systems Analyst
    Location:
    Beaverton, Oregon
    Wow, I just read this thread! Sorry to hear that ABM! I thought the new email address you sent me just meant you had a different job?
     

Share This Page