For o.ia's mock, I'm with M on the point that Seattle doesn't really need another center prospect. With Petro, Sene, Collison, and Swift potentially contributing, I don't see them needing another 5. I also don't see Memphis taking Eric Gordon with Miller, Crittenton, Lowry, and Conley in the backcourt. I find Love to Memphis in M's mock more realistic, albeit a stretch, simply because they have such a gaping hole at the 4 (unless they're happy with Gay as a 4). However, if Memphis keeps their pick, and Mayo is on the table, I can't see them reaching that high for Love or Randolph. More than anything, the Grizzlies need fans in the seats, and Mayo can deliver that. It's definitely a tough call though. #5 is probably the hardest pick to project this early on. With that said though, I can't see Gordon slipping all the way to New Jersey as he does in M's mock. Given the rest of his mock, it makes more sense than just saying "Gordon will go #10" out of context, but it's still a huge slide for the phenom. I don't think Charlotte would pass him up to be honest. They're just outside of the playoffs, and taking DeAndre Jordan wouldn't really help them out in that regard. Jordan's about as far off from contributing as anyone in lottery discussions, and although they could use a 4 or a 5, they could also use a 2 incase Morrison doesn't come back from the ACL injury in playing condition. I also don't see Milwaukee taking Love over Randolph as o.ia projects, unless Charlie V get's traded as is rumored. Anyway, here's my early take on the situation - 1 - Chicago - Michael Beasley 2 - Miami - Derrick Rose 3 - Minnesota - Brook Lopez 4 - Seattle - Jerryd Bayless 5 - Memphis - O.J. Mayo 6 - New York - Danillo Gallinari 7 - L.A. Clippers - Eric Gordon 8 - Milwaukee - Anthony Randolph 9 - Charlotte - Kevin Love 10 - New Jersey - DeAndre Jordan 11 - Indiana - Russell Westbrook 12 - Sacramento - D.J. Augustin 13 - Portland - Joe Alexander 14 - Golden State - Donte Greene
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Voodoo Child @ May 21 2008, 11:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>For o.ia's mock, I'm with M on the point that Seattle doesn't really need another center prospect. With Petro, Sene, Collison, and Swift potentially contributing, I don't see them needing another 5. I also don't see Memphis taking Eric Gordon with Miller, Crittenton, Lowry, and Conley in the backcourt. I find Love to Memphis in M's mock more realistic, albeit a stretch, simply because they have such a gaping hole at the 4 (unless they're happy with Gay as a 4). However, if Memphis keeps their pick, and Mayo is on the table, I can't see them reaching that high for Love or Randolph. More than anything, the Grizzlies need fans in the seats, and Mayo can deliver that. It's definitely a tough call though. #5 is probably the hardest pick to project this early on. With that said though, I can't see Gordon slipping all the way to New Jersey as he does in M's mock. Given the rest of his mock, it makes more sense than just saying "Gordon will go #10" out of context, but it's still a huge slide for the phenom. I don't think Charlotte would pass him up to be honest. They're just outside of the playoffs, and taking DeAndre Jordan wouldn't really help them out in that regard. Jordan's about as far off from contributing as anyone in lottery discussions, and although they could use a 4 or a 5, they could also use a 2 incase Morrison doesn't come back from the ACL injury in playing condition. I also don't see Milwaukee taking Love over Randolph as o.ia projects, unless Charlie V get's traded as is rumored. Anyway, here's my early take on the situation - 1 - Chicago - Michael Beasley 2 - Miami - Derrick Rose 3 - Minnesota - Brook Lopez 4 - Seattle - Jerryd Bayless 5 - Memphis - O.J. Mayo 6 - New York - Danillo Gallinari 7 - L.A. Clippers - Eric Gordon 8 - Milwaukee - Anthony Randolph 9 - Charlotte - Kevin Love 10 - New Jersey - DeAndre Jordan 11 - Indiana - Russell Westbrook 12 - Sacramento - D.J. Augustin 13 - Portland - Joe Alexander 14 - Golden State - Donte Greene</div> Swift is injury prone and is a free-agent this summer, Sene a project, Collison is trade bait. They need an inside scoring to go along with Durant's perimeter play. If he's there they should take him, but imo he'll go to Minny. Also Kevin love wouldn't fit in Memphis system, they want to play an uptempo game, some Gordan will have more sucess in than Love. Lowry and Conley are PG, they need a solid 2 to go with Conley in the backcourt and Gordan can be that guy. Charlotte needs a center in the worst way, and the best big still on the board will be DeAndre Jordan, he's not a pure project that will be in the bench most of the season, he can come in and contribute, but I see Charlotte trying to trade up and get Brook Lopez. Milwaukee has alot of good talent right now, they don't need to pick a player based on potiential, Kevin Love can come in and play right away.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 21 2008, 12:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Voodoo Child @ May 21 2008, 11:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>For o.ia's mock, I'm with M on the point that Seattle doesn't really need another center prospect. With Petro, Sene, Collison, and Swift potentially contributing, I don't see them needing another 5. I also don't see Memphis taking Eric Gordon with Miller, Crittenton, Lowry, and Conley in the backcourt. I find Love to Memphis in M's mock more realistic, albeit a stretch, simply because they have such a gaping hole at the 4 (unless they're happy with Gay as a 4). However, if Memphis keeps their pick, and Mayo is on the table, I can't see them reaching that high for Love or Randolph. More than anything, the Grizzlies need fans in the seats, and Mayo can deliver that. It's definitely a tough call though. #5 is probably the hardest pick to project this early on. With that said though, I can't see Gordon slipping all the way to New Jersey as he does in M's mock. Given the rest of his mock, it makes more sense than just saying "Gordon will go #10" out of context, but it's still a huge slide for the phenom. I don't think Charlotte would pass him up to be honest. They're just outside of the playoffs, and taking DeAndre Jordan wouldn't really help them out in that regard. Jordan's about as far off from contributing as anyone in lottery discussions, and although they could use a 4 or a 5, they could also use a 2 incase Morrison doesn't come back from the ACL injury in playing condition. I also don't see Milwaukee taking Love over Randolph as o.ia projects, unless Charlie V get's traded as is rumored. Anyway, here's my early take on the situation - 1 - Chicago - Michael Beasley 2 - Miami - Derrick Rose 3 - Minnesota - Brook Lopez 4 - Seattle - Jerryd Bayless 5 - Memphis - O.J. Mayo 6 - New York - Danillo Gallinari 7 - L.A. Clippers - Eric Gordon 8 - Milwaukee - Anthony Randolph 9 - Charlotte - Kevin Love 10 - New Jersey - DeAndre Jordan 11 - Indiana - Russell Westbrook 12 - Sacramento - D.J. Augustin 13 - Portland - Joe Alexander 14 - Golden State - Donte Greene</div> Swift is injury prone and is a free-agent this summer, Sene a project, Collison is trade bait. They need an inside scoring to go along with Durant's perimeter play. If he's there they should take him, but imo he'll go to Minny. Also Kevin love wouldn't fit in Memphis system, they want to play an uptempo game, some Gordan will have more sucess in than Love. Lowry and Conley are PG, they need a solid 2 to go with Conley in the backcourt and Gordan can be that guy. Charlotte needs a center in the worst way, and the best big still on the board will be DeAndre Jordan, he's not a pure project that will be in the bench most of the season, he can come in and contribute, but I see Charlotte trying to trade up and get Brook Lopez. Milwaukee has alot of good talent right now, they don't need to pick a player based on potiential, Kevin Love can come in and play right away. </div> Yeah, Love doesn't fit Memphis' system, but at least he'd play. Gordon wouldn't see the light of day with Mike Miller and Javaris Crittenton at the 2 and Kyle Lowry and Mike Conley, Jr. at the 1. Mayo, on the other hand, would more realistically fit their system and crack the rotation, not to mention the fan appeal he'd give the Grizzlies, a team which is completely ignored by their community. I completely disagree on DeAndre Jordan. He's most definitely a project (a 44% FT shooting project at that). He could barely contribute for Texas A&M; how's he going to contribute for the Bobcats, especially with Larry Brown as the head coach? He'd be worse off as a Bobcat than Darko was as a Piston. Kevin Love, although having less 'potential', is more NBA ready and would still fill the same void Jordan would in the middle.
Your seriously underrating Gordan, Crittenton is a nice player, but he's not a better 2 guard than Gordan. Gordan has great upperbody strength, great handles, and great range. He'll be able to come to most teams and contribute right away. DeAndre Jordan game was really suited for college, he's a freak athlete at 7 feet look at Josh Smith when he enter the NBA was very raw couldn't even really dribble, but being so athletic, he was able to play the NBA game. I know Charlotte would much rather have Okafor playing the 4, with getting Jordan or even better Lopez that will allow them to do that. Kevin Love is only gonna hold Okafor back even more.
1. Chicago (33-49)- Rose 2. Miami (15-67)-beasley 3. Minnesota (22-60)- Brook lopez 4. Seattle (20-62)- Jerryd Bayless 5. Memphis (22-60)- O.J mayo 6. New York (23-59)- Danilio Galinari 7. LA Clippers (23-59)- Eric Gordan 8. Milwaukee (26-56)- Anthony Randolph 9. Charlotte (32-50)- DeAndre Jordan 10. New Jersey (34-48)- Darel Arthur 11. Indiana (36-46)- Russel WestBrook 12. Sacramento (38-44)- D.J Augustin 13. Portland (41-41)- Donte Green 14. Golden State (48-34)- Nicolas Batum kevin love slips
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 21 2008, 12:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Your seriously underrating Gordan, Crittenton is a nice player, but he's not a better 2 guard than Gordan. Gordan has great upperbody strength, great handles, and great range. He'll be able to come to most teams and contribute right away. DeAndre Jordan game was really suited for college, he's a freak athlete at 7 feet look at Josh Smith when he enter the NBA was very raw couldn't even really dribble, but being so athletic, he was able to play the NBA game. I know Charlotte would much rather have Okafor playing the 4, with getting Jordan or even better Lopez that will allow them to do that. Kevin Love is only gonna hold Okafor back even more.</div> I'm not underrating Gordon at all. Being a Big 10 diehard, I'm more familiar with his game than just about any other player's in the draft. He just doesn't fit with Memphis at all. Of course he's better than Crittenton, but he's not better than Mike Miller, and moving Miller to the 3 would move Gay to the 4, which is too big of a sacrifice for the Grizzlies to make for any player not named O.J. Mayo. As far as Jordan, his game was suited for college? Then why didn't he contribute, at all? He was good for one thing at A&M offensively: dunking. I remember after watching him against Washington earlier this season, I came away thinking he had never touched a basketball before in his life. He went 4-5 from the field, but the four shots he made were dunks and the one missed shot was the only actual field goal he took all game, a point-blank six or seven footer. He also went 0-6 from the line that game, with no assists and four turnovers. He's got a hell of a lot of potential, but that potential is simply based on his physical attributes. As far as his game goes, he's a ways off from being a contributer.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#1_Yinka_Dare_Fan @ May 20 2008, 10:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'd cream if Gordon made it to us.</div> What he said. A lot of people don't realize how good he is b/c he was playing most of the season with an injury. I'm going to hope and pray he makes it to the Nets, but I don't see it happening.
I meant Jordan game was more suited for the NBA. Jordan is very raw, but he has size and athleticism and if you put him in the right situation he can turn out to be a solid player, better than any big left on board. He can't create his offense in the post, but you give him the right PG, it'll make him alot better.
No way Nets are taking Arthur or Jordan. Definitely not Jordan. If Augustin's still on the board at 10, I wouldn't be surprised if they picked him up. He's a damn good shooter. Perfect to backup, or play alongside Devin IMO
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 21 2008, 03:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You don't draft a player to be your back-up for the next 5+ years</div> Um...why not? That's what the Hawks did with Childress...and Acie Law.
LOL no they didn't Childress was chosen to be our SF or Sg of the future, but with the emergence of Smoove and Marvin that kept it from happening. Remember Childress was drafted before Smoove. Acie Law is the Hawks PG of the future
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 21 2008, 03:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>LOL no they didn't Childress was chosen to be our SF or Sg of the future, but with the emergence of Smoove and Marvin that kept it from happening. Remember Childress was drafted before Smoove. Acie Law is the Hawks PG of the future</div> Both of them are playing backup right now. Sean Williams was picked to be a backup. So was Marcus Williams, and Antoine Wright. I don't really see what's wrong with drafting a backup.
Childress is good enough to be a starter, Acie Law just needs time, but he'll be the starter after next season. Sean Williams, Marcus Williams, Antoine Wright..none of them were lottery picks, you dont use the 10th pick on a player you know will be a back up.
VC, no love for Batum in the mock? Where do you think he's going to? I still see him in the lottery despite the fact that he needs conditioning and time simply because he's a breakout type of player that could be a 20+ PPG type of guy with high octane, paint penetrating offense.
