Lottery pick: #6, 2nd Rnd Picks: #36, and #57

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  1. oldmangrouch

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    I had the impression Olshey was a little too interested in trying to look clever. EG signing a former lotto pick that had already been recognized as a flop. If they failed, it was expected. If he hit the million to one shot and they became useful - he got the bragging rights. Sadly, I see the same tendency with our current guy. (Winslow, K Johnson)
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    can the mods please get rid of the #11 in the title of this jinx thread?
     
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    NO up by 17 and that 2nd pick is sliping away. The basketball gawds have cursed us. (I believe we are still being punished for picking Oden over KD)
     
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    The Pels had a better record than the Spurs. The Clips have the better record than the Pels by six games. I feel like we should still plan on having that pick but it's definitely not a given, which fucking sucks.
     
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    Fuck LA, but go Clips go!? :dunno:
     
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    How in the fuck does Freeman make any sense? If Joe got fleeced... it's a bad fucking look!!!!!

    Seriously Joe seems like a nice enough guy... actually he seems way too nice because CJ said he let CJ pick the team he went to which is fucking idiotic and that's being unfair to idiots. That being said, I wish him and almost every other person who carries Olshey's stink was gone or is gone when all of the dust settles but at the very least let's get someone in here after that atrocious trade deadline who is a bigger name than Cronin, that can be made President of Basketball Operations and make the final say on the deals that get recommended to the Vulcans... for fuck's sake.
     
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    Maybe they get a new guy in when the dust settles.

    That way a new quality Gm can come in with a fresh blank slate of Dame, Ant, tons of cap space, 20M trade exception, and 2 lottery picks (hopefully clips win)

    That’s a very enticing job to take on. Cronin was just the fall guy to get us there
     
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    Could be. I find it funny that people freak out when CJ has a good game. The Dude can score. Sure, maybe we could have traded him for another 6'2" player.

    I've seen no evidence that a player we actually wanted going forward was available... If you think Cronin didn't check for a long 2-way wing starter from every other team in the league you're crazy.

    Those guys weren't available in exchange for CJ.
     
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    That’s the only theory
     
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    That’s my sense too. I think there’s no doubt Cronin could have gotten more value for CJ, Nance, RoCo and Powell, but I think the value would have come in terms of other guys with their own limitations that don’t fit Cronin’s vision of what he wants to do with the roster. The trades dumped solid players for more flexibility to pursue the guys he and Chauncey want. Can they pull it off? I’m not sure at all. They’re either playing chess while the rest of us fumble with checkers, or they don’t even know how to play checkers at all.
     
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    The "ton of cap space" assumes we let Ant, Nurk, And Hart all walk. If we re-sign them, the estimate is around $7 mil in cap space. What difference maker is going to sign for that? Even if we had cap space, no big star will ever sign in Portland. Money alone does not determine who is or isn't a player in FA.

    Besides, Cronin is a bean-counter, not a basketball guy, and I strongly suspect that is exactly what the Seattle mafia wants. I can see them following the model of the Reds and A's in MLB.
     
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    a lot of overreaction to the Pels game

    some of the pro-CJ guys should take a serious look at the last 15 playoff games CJ played for Portland.

    and fuck Jaynes for continuing to nuthug Olshey
     
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    Then call me crazy, because I still believe his marching orders from Seattle were that on court value was NOT a priority.
     
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    again...forget about cap-space. Blazers won't have any

    what they will finally have that they haven't had since olshey's idiotic 2016 spending spree is some cap-flexibility, and that's important. At least it would be important in the hands of a good GM. Not sure that's Cronin; he might have just been ordered to be a hatchet man by Seattle
     
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    I'm not sure what you consider an over-reaction? CJ is neither a stud nor a dud. He is simply a good, useful player. Good enough that it destroys the value of the NO draft pick - which was far and away the best (potential) asset we got in the deal.

    And yes, Jaynes is a clueless bozo! :cheers: This was the guy who advocated trading Clyde for Harold Minor. The fact that even he can see this was a bad deal speaks volumes.
     
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    I still wish we had gotten Simmons and I’m glad CJ is showing Morey what he could’ve had in Philly. Simmons would’ve been great. He’s hurt so he would’ve helped the tank and then next year, we’d be awesome.
     
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    The Clippers have the better team and ex-Blazers, too. I have no concerns about them taking care of business. The pick I'm thinking about is the Blazers. The Pelican pick is a bonus useful for something a helluva lot better than Meyers Leonard as a draftee and in trade. I am glad CJ is gone. Looking forward to the draft lottery, the draft and next year.
     
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    How has the search for a new gm not started yet?
     
  20. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Who says it hasn't?
     
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