I personally think Lotto Picks are just that. Draft Picks. They mostly give you serviceable players that can contribute. A top three pick can be a really good asset. Some drafts have "generational talented" players. This one does not. Sometimes you get lucky and a player further down the draft becomes an all star talent. Not often does that happen.
At this point of the year in 2012, were you saying Damian Lillard was a generational talent? As the 6th pick he fell well outside your really good asset bracket into serviceable player. Hell, the 5th pick in the 2nd round of that same draft stands a pretty good chance of getting into the Hall of Fame. Granted the 2022 lotto lacks a hyped sure thing prospect like Greg Oden or Zion Williamson, but probably a good idea to not be so sure of your evaluation of the talent this far out as it's likely you'll be proven wrong. STOMP
Do you honestly feel Damian Lillard is a "Generational Talent"? Or do you feel he is just one of the best to ever play for the Blazers? Is that because of his talent or because of his overall value due to personality and commitment? I personally feel he is an All Star talent but not on the level of LeBron, Duncan, Jordan, Magic, Bird as well as many others. I agree with you however it's early in the game and a pick in the 7-10 area could be a great pickup? If they were to get lucky enough to get a player on the level of Dame they would certainly have done very well. If they get a player on the level of Damian Lillard or even CJ. If they get a project that will take 2-3 years to make an impact they might not look so good? Ant, Little, Watford, Elleby, Brown. I feel they have plenty of projects as it sits.
This thread reminds me why I have been a long opponent of "tear it down and start over". Most fans can't handle a half-season of sucking, let alone multiple years. I am all in for tanking for the second half of a season in the right situation, and this year with Dame out and CJ traded.....it is the right time. Especially since I think they are just one solid PF away from being good next year. It is worth the agony for a few months in order to roll the dice. I look at it as an extended summer league where it is interesting to see how the young players are developing and who should be kept. But no way would I want to see this for another year.
Outside of GS two years ago, this fanbase is probably one of the most pro-tank markets in the NBA. We have the longest active consecutive playoff appearance streak in the league but everyone knew this year needed to be a reset. But the way we are doing this is egregious and it wears on you. I am largely fine with it, but think we're taking it way too far. When you lose by 30+ in three straight games, then decide to rest one of your two NBA caliber players in the next two games, it becomes overkill. We had no justifiable reason to bench Hart/Ant in the past two games when we're already losing as is.
I question it. If a player is never the best in the league at his own position, how can he be termed a "generational talent"?
Dame averages 25/7/4 for his career and has been the picture of durability until this year. He has better or comparable raw career numbers to Steph.
yes. Five dudes. GENERATIONAL talent to me means the best in the generation. As much as i love Dame he is unquestionably NOT a generational talent or he would be consider in the same teer as giannis, curry, lbj, Luka, jokic all generational talents in this generation. any team out there would pass on Dame for any of these other players. In this generation alone. Dame is the best Blazer ever in my book. Still not generational.
There is no taking this too far. If we're going to tank we better get every last loss out of it as we possibly can. If you play Hart and Ant together you increase your chances of winning even if they're slim. The only thing I'm worried about with this tank is that the team gets fatigued with it like you are and wins some games because they want to keep things competitive.
Top 10 in active career points and their draft year. 1. Lebron - 2003 2. Carmel0 - 2003 3. Durant - 2007 4. Harden - 2009 5. Westbrook - 2008 6. Paul - 2005 7. Aldridge - 2006 8. Curry - 2009 9. Derozan - 2009 10 Howard - 2004 11. Dame - 2012 The fact that Dame is only about 2000 pts behind Steph while having been drafted 3 years after him is madness. Some of you guys are taking Dame's consistent greatness for granted.
I want our young guys to get something from these games. They aren't learning a damn thing losing by 30 every night. Your mindset would be somewhat OK if the only two guys we're carrying forward next year were Ant/Hart. But we're going to inevitably bring back more than just those guys and it's hard for them to develop when teams are running roughshod over them nightly.
It was the one that posted. Dame is similarly high on the field goals, made three pointers, and averages lists.
stephs carreer fg is .473 dame is .437 shots attempted: Dame: 18.4 steph: 17.6 yeah no. Not as good as steph…
did i say he was? Steph will end up as a top 10 player of all time. Dame might end up in the top 50 when it's all said and done. In an era where Steph transformed the game, Dame has been the closest facsimile to a guy who was the transcendent talent of the generation. And I'll maintain that if you give Dame guys like Draymond/KD/Klay as teammates, Dame's efficiency would be pretty damn close to Steph's. The point is... some of us have different definitions of "generational."
