Mad Max- Who Will Be His Suitor???

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  1. totus44

    totus44 Lord of the Dark Side

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    Hey look, if you want to believe that the twenty odd million made from ticket sales is important to the Steins, please by all means delude yourself.
     
  2. totus44

    totus44 Lord of the Dark Side

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    Maybe, but with the A's retooling and the Angels/Rangers standing pat, could be the piece they need.
     
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    Are you doing this on purpose? We're not talking about JUST ticket sales. Also when you throw in parking & concessions we're talking about a shit load more then just $20M

    You know what Tom, the hell with it. I think we'd have better luck teaching algebra to a 3 year old then trying to make you see how ridiculous your general statement of fans not being necessary actually sounded.
     
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    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

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    ...uhhh, no, that's not right.



    ...lmao...again, do you really think they Steins would be willing to just flush that money?
     
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    ...I've been trying to get that through his head....you can't simply count ticket prices alone.
     
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    totus44 Lord of the Dark Side

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    Yeah well your selective hearing and lack of reading comprehension puts you in the 3yr old algebra class yourself.
     
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    totus44 Lord of the Dark Side

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    I know that link, thanks. Again tix/general attendance is 5% of the revenue for the Yankees. The seats can be full or empty. Season fix and suites are already bought and paid for. You buying a 100/500 seat and eating/drinking is inconsequential. Fuck!
     
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    ...lol...I'll ask you for the THIRD time... concerning this supposed "inconsequential" money you keep referencing; ...do you think the Steins would be willing to flush it down the toilet?

    ...and why do you keep discounting the other revenues taken in at games?...sorry, it's a package deal and it's a helluva lot more than "$20 Mil".

    ...you might also want to reread you own Forbes link; "A drop in ticket revenue last season resulted in overall revenue falling by $10 million from 2012, ...."

    ...you might also want to reread your earlier post (#40); " Yanks annual revenue is $461M. Doing the math, there is another $120M not accounted, that must include stadium and merchandize revenue."
     
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    Yanks get $350-400M/yr from the YES sale and another $100M from the cable deal. If you can show me where general attendance related revenue are more than 5-10% on their PnL then I'll retract my inconsequential label.

    The only time butts in the seats make a financial impact are for playoff runs. The rest of the season its tertiary revenue behind ancillary business revenue and media related revenue.

    I'm done discussing this point, so please flame away as per usual.
     
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    Of course you're done Tom because no one agrees with you. So yeah, let it go, you're starting to embarrass yourself.
     
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    ...well, I'm glad we finally went from "5%" to "10%"...which is actually a very good annual profit margin, especially when we're talking about 10% of roughly $500,000,000.00 dollars.

    ...never did get an answer to my question though. ...sigh.
     
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    Tom, "The Pareto Rule" your not making making Pareto Charts again are you? That's ok, I've always preferred Power Point over Excel. Wouldn't a PIE chart create more transparency? LOL....!

    Tom-can you clarify what you mean on the use of "the pareto rule" please? :smile:
     
  14. totus44

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    80/20 for those in Rio Linda
     
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    Thanks for clarification.
     
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    Dude...one long term cable deal is a shit load easier than pandering 81 home games. I understand you can't accept the fact that the steins could care less about regular season home crowds that aren't in luxury boxes, but the evidence says I'm right.

    And Rick I'll fucking speak me mind all fucking day long....you set the perfect embarrassment model.
     
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    ...lol, that post and convo was a week ago but whatever.

    ...and no, the "evidence" does not say your right. We're talking about a lot of money here. Instead of tap dancing around the question I have now asked 4 times, why not actually answer it and end this argument?...it case you missed it, here it is again (copied from post # 69 above);

    "I'll ask you for the THIRD time... concerning this supposed "inconsequential" money you keep referencing; ...do you think the Steins would be willing to flush it down the toilet?"
     
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    By flush it do you mean keep tix prices high and not try to alter things to maximize attendance? If so then I think I answered your question all 3 times.

    Yes....inconsequential,.....its incidental income. Individual game/seat sales are the second lowest hanging fruit next to merchandize. The Steins aren't paying attention to that part of the business. They are happy to take the cash as long as it doesn't require work or effort.

    Without the color text or bolding, why can't you see this? 80% of their revenue comes from 2 deals....that's their focus. After that its advertising and licensing deals and then luxury boxes. The rest, gen admission/Con sessions they don't pay attention to that.

    Now for teams that don't have big top end revenue, their 80/20 cut goes deeper at tix sales becomes more important. This is pretty simple business philosophy.
     
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