<div class="quote_poster">Quoting "allnet":</div><div class="quote_post"><div class="quote_poster">Quoting "sportsrock37":</div><div class="quote_post">u're right. when your team is below the magic at the end of next season, then we'll talk. btw u guys were LUCKY to beat the magic in the playoffs. u guys fought hard and u guys had the better coach. your coach put the desire to win in your guys and our coach basically thought we had the series won.</div> We weren't lucky...we played badly most of the series...only the sixers series we played pistons basketball</div> we played badly the last 3 games. u just can't get it. u think that you guys like gave us the 3-1 series lead adn then since you are way better than us just destroyed us the last 3 games. y didn't u just give us a 3-0 lead? that woulda proved it. with the way u guys played and the way we played in the final 3 games, u deserved that series. but the magic just played horrible. i know pistons played bad in game 1, but the refs kept them in it with 47 ft's, the refs didn't even try to help us out when we play bad. if they did then i guarantee u we woulda won, but i'm not trying to sound like a sore loser, i'm just saying that IMHO we were the better team and we just don't have a killer instinct yet. we are still a very young team we will learn it soon.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting "truemaster14":</div><div class="quote_post">you guys got lucky to beat the sixers too </div> We did? love for you to explain that one....
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting "sportsrock37":</div><div class="quote_post"><div class="quote_poster">Quoting "allnet":</div><div class="quote_post"><div class="quote_poster">Quoting "sportsrock37":</div><div class="quote_post">u're right. when your team is below the magic at the end of next season, then we'll talk. btw u guys were LUCKY to beat the magic in the playoffs. u guys fought hard and u guys had the better coach. your coach put the desire to win in your guys and our coach basically thought we had the series won.</div> We weren't lucky...we played badly most of the series...only the sixers series we played pistons basketball</div> we played badly the last 3 games. u just can't get it. u think that you guys like gave us the 3-1 series lead adn then since you are way better than us just destroyed us the last 3 games. y didn't u just give us a 3-0 lead? that woulda proved it. with the way u guys played and the way we played in the final 3 games, u deserved that series. but the magic just played horrible. i know pistons played bad in game 1, but the refs kept them in it with 47 ft's, the refs didn't even try to help us out when we play bad. if they did then i guarantee u we woulda won, but i'm not trying to sound like a sore loser, i'm just saying that IMHO we were the better team and we just don't have a killer instinct yet. we are still a very young team we will learn it soon.</div> Magic are not the better team..if they were they would of been higher than 8th i the east..we were the 1st seed...we should of won more easily than we did...should of gone to no less than 6 for pistons to win....
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting "truemaster14":</div><div class="quote_post">allen iverson missed ft's, and choke job in game 6</div> yawn thats not what you call lucky..it's called winning games when you are short handed...you do know chauncey billups did not play most of that series..don't you? sixers don't have a clutch player...they struggle finishing games..out defence was good...they struggled..
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting "sportsrock37":</div><div class="quote_post">well if we had gooden and giricek the whole season than we woulda been higher than 8th.</div> 6th at best..but i still want to know how magic were the better team? please explain....
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting "allnet":</div><div class="quote_post"><div class="quote_poster">Quoting "truemaster14":</div><div class="quote_post">allen iverson missed ft's, and choke job in game 6</div> yawn thats not what you call lucky..it's called winning games when you are short handed...you do know chauncey billups did not play most of that series..don't you? sixers don't have a clutch player...they struggle finishing games..out defence was good...they struggled..</div> that's the magic's big problem. that and falling behind early.
lock this thread, and magic were better than 6th(we actually could have been 6th but we tanked the last 2 games).
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting "truemaster14":</div><div class="quote_post">lock this thread, and magic were better than 6th(we actually could have been 6th but we tanked the last 2 games).</div> Yet again you skip my post....your arguement was weak..so you try and turn to something else...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting "allnet":</div><div class="quote_post"><div class="quote_poster">Quoting "sportsrock37":</div><div class="quote_post">well if we had gooden and giricek the whole season than we woulda been higher than 8th.</div> 6th at best..but i still want to know how magic were the better team? please explain....</div> this is from the ending of the series pg-jacque vaughn vs chauncey. chauncey by far sg-tmac vs rip. tmac by far sf-giricek vs curry giricek, but not by much(he had a horrible series) pf-gooden vs big ben. u all are gonna get pissed at me, but gooden had the better series, he scored and rebounded well for us against the best defensive and best rebounder in the league. c-declerq vs cliffy. cliffy. bench- detroit coaches- detroit refs- favored detroit(so magic point) so that's a tie, but next year when gooden improves and giricek has a better series, then watch out. gooden will dominate big ben next year
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting "allnet":</div><div class="quote_post"><div class="quote_poster">Quoting "truemaster14":</div><div class="quote_post">lock this thread, and magic were better than 6th(we actually could have been 6th but we tanked the last 2 games).</div> Yet again you skip my post....your arguement was weak..so you try and turn to something else...</div> it's true though. we did tank the last 2 or 3 games. anyway our record with gooden and giricek was great, so if we did better with miller(at least .500) than we woulda been around the 4th or 5th seed.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting "sportsrock37":</div><div class="quote_post"><div class="quote_poster">Quoting "allnet":</div><div class="quote_post"><div class="quote_poster">Quoting "sportsrock37":</div><div class="quote_post">well if we had gooden and giricek the whole season than we woulda been higher than 8th.</div> 6th at best..but i still want to know how magic were the better team? please explain....</div> this is from the ending of the series pg-jacque vaughn vs chauncey. chauncey by far sg-tmac vs rip. tmac by far sf-giricek vs curry giricek, but not by much(he had a horrible series) pf-gooden vs big ben. u all are gonna get pissed at me, but gooden had the better series, he scored and rebounded well for us against the best defensive and best rebounder in the league. c-declerq vs cliffy. cliffy. bench- detroit coaches- detroit refs- favored detroit(so magic point) so that's a tie, but next year when gooden improves and giricek has a better series, then watch out. gooden will dominate big ben next year </div> Curry hardly ever plays...it should be corliss in there....pistons have the better team....and no gooden will not dominate ben next year....ben was not heathly all series..just came off a badly injuried knee...rip had a great series..averaged over 24.....so no it wasn't mcgrady by far....i don't care for match-ups...they don't tell the story of a team..and how good they are Magic may well improve..but pistons will without a doubt.... anways...you should lock this thread now...no point in taking it any further...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting "allnet":</div><div class="quote_post"><div class="quote_poster">Quoting "sportsrock37":</div><div class="quote_post"><div class="quote_poster">Quoting "allnet":</div><div class="quote_post"><div class="quote_poster">Quoting "sportsrock37":</div><div class="quote_post">well if we had gooden and giricek the whole season than we woulda been higher than 8th.</div> 6th at best..but i still want to know how magic were the better team? please explain....</div> this is from the ending of the series pg-jacque vaughn vs chauncey. chauncey by far sg-tmac vs rip. tmac by far sf-giricek vs curry giricek, but not by much(he had a horrible series) pf-gooden vs big ben. u all are gonna get pissed at me, but gooden had the better series, he scored and rebounded well for us against the best defensive and best rebounder in the league. c-declerq vs cliffy. cliffy. bench- detroit coaches- detroit refs- favored detroit(so magic point) so that's a tie, but next year when gooden improves and giricek has a better series, then watch out. gooden will dominate big ben next year </div> Curry hardly ever plays...it should be corliss in there....pistons have the better team....and no gooden will not dominate ben next year....ben was not heathly all series..just came off a badly injuried knee...rip had a great series..averaged over 24.....so no it wasn't mcgrady by far....i don't care for match-ups...they don't tell the story of a team..and how good they are</div> alright fine it wasn't tmac by far. let's compare the 1st round series together why don't we. Player G GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% OFF DEF TOT APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG Tracy McGrady 7 7 44.0 .448 .340 .773 1.40 5.30 6.70 4.7 2.00 .86 3.71 2.30 31.7 2002-03 Pistons First Round Statistics PLAYER AVERAGES Player G GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% OFF DEF TOT APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG Richard Hamilton 7 7 36.1 .449 .222 .918 1.70 2.60 4.30 1.9 .57 .00 2.57 2.90 21.9 so tmac by 10 ppg. by 1 rpg and by 3 apg. pretty damn close huh allnet? to me that's by far.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting "sportsrock37":</div><div class="quote_post"><div class="quote_poster">Quoting "allnet":</div><div class="quote_post"><div class="quote_poster">Quoting "sportsrock37":</div><div class="quote_post"><div class="quote_poster">Quoting "allnet":</div><div class="quote_post"><div class="quote_poster">Quoting "sportsrock37":</div><div class="quote_post">well if we had gooden and giricek the whole season than we woulda been higher than 8th.</div> 6th at best..but i still want to know how magic were the better team? please explain....</div> this is from the ending of the series pg-jacque vaughn vs chauncey. chauncey by far sg-tmac vs rip. tmac by far sf-giricek vs curry giricek, but not by much(he had a horrible series) pf-gooden vs big ben. u all are gonna get pissed at me, but gooden had the better series, he scored and rebounded well for us against the best defensive and best rebounder in the league. c-declerq vs cliffy. cliffy. bench- detroit coaches- detroit refs- favored detroit(so magic point) so that's a tie, but next year when gooden improves and giricek has a better series, then watch out. gooden will dominate big ben next year </div> Curry hardly ever plays...it should be corliss in there....pistons have the better team....and no gooden will not dominate ben next year....ben was not heathly all series..just came off a badly injuried knee...rip had a great series..averaged over 24.....so no it wasn't mcgrady by far....i don't care for match-ups...they don't tell the story of a team..and how good they are</div> alright fine it wasn't tmac by far. let's compare the 1st round series together why don't we. Player G GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% OFF DEF TOT APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG Tracy McGrady 7 7 44.0 .448 .340 .773 1.40 5.30 6.70 4.7 2.00 .86 3.71 2.30 31.7 2002-03 Pistons First Round Statistics PLAYER AVERAGES Player G GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% OFF DEF TOT APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG Richard Hamilton 7 7 36.1 .449 .222 .918 1.70 2.60 4.30 1.9 .57 .00 2.57 2.90 21.9 so tmac by 10 ppg. by 1 rpg and by 3 apg. pretty damn close huh allnet? to me that's by far.</div> Considered the way mcgrady got schooled the ast two games..i don't think it was that far..i never said it was close....just mcgrady didn't play that much better
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting "raptors21":</div><div class="quote_post">hamilton will be gone.</div> No he won't..
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting "allnet":</div><div class="quote_post"><div class="quote_poster">Quoting "sportsrock37":</div><div class="quote_post"><div class="quote_poster">Quoting "allnet":</div><div class="quote_post"><div class="quote_poster">Quoting "sportsrock37":</div><div class="quote_post"><div class="quote_poster">Quoting "allnet":</div><div class="quote_post"><div class="quote_poster">Quoting "sportsrock37":</div><div class="quote_post">well if we had gooden and giricek the whole season than we woulda been higher than 8th.</div> 6th at best..but i still want to know how magic were the better team? please explain....</div> this is from the ending of the series pg-jacque vaughn vs chauncey. chauncey by far sg-tmac vs rip. tmac by far sf-giricek vs curry giricek, but not by much(he had a horrible series) pf-gooden vs big ben. u all are gonna get pissed at me, but gooden had the better series, he scored and rebounded well for us against the best defensive and best rebounder in the league. c-declerq vs cliffy. cliffy. bench- detroit coaches- detroit refs- favored detroit(so magic point) so that's a tie, but next year when gooden improves and giricek has a better series, then watch out. gooden will dominate big ben next year </div> Curry hardly ever plays...it should be corliss in there....pistons have the better team....and no gooden will not dominate ben next year....ben was not heathly all series..just came off a badly injuried knee...rip had a great series..averaged over 24.....so no it wasn't mcgrady by far....i don't care for match-ups...they don't tell the story of a team..and how good they are</div> alright fine it wasn't tmac by far. let's compare the 1st round series together why don't we. Player G GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% OFF DEF TOT APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG Tracy McGrady 7 7 44.0 .448 .340 .773 1.40 5.30 6.70 4.7 2.00 .86 3.71 2.30 31.7 2002-03 Pistons First Round Statistics PLAYER AVERAGES Player G GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% OFF DEF TOT APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG Richard Hamilton 7 7 36.1 .449 .222 .918 1.70 2.60 4.30 1.9 .57 .00 2.57 2.90 21.9 so tmac by 10 ppg. by 1 rpg and by 3 apg. pretty damn close huh allnet? to me that's by far.</div> Considered the way mcgrady got schooled the ast two games..i don't think it was that far..i never said it was close....just mcgrady didn't play that much better</div> that makes it worse. that means that tmac would be avg about 15 ppg more than rip. and yes he did play much better than rip. rip played good, but not up to tmac's level.
Not many can play up to T-mac's level..but rip had a great series...so my point you clearly missed..was that rip was no push over..and got his points to help the team win... but i don't know why we are still talking about the first round of the playoffs...this is the off-season....this round finished long time ago..
