Malcolm Brogdon trade ideas

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  1. Samuel

    Samuel James “Hollywood” Robinson

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    yeah whenever I read ‘ascending young forward’ I think ‘oh yeah? who? that a gm is willing to move?’
     
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    Whoever is running the youtube channel for the team is dropping the ball. Both Brogdon and Williams did interviews following practice yesterday and they haven't yet been posted.

    The Scoot and Chauncey interviews drew so many views the day before and the fanbase appears eager for more content and the team isn't striking on the increased interest.
     
  3. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    They’ve been really bad so far. Putting out that welcome message where they misspelled Brogdon’s name.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    I miss Amara.

    Amateur hour nowadays.
     
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    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Their social media team sucks major ass now.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    They probably don’t pay for shit.
     
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    Yeah, that kind of takes Grant out of the equation. If the young player is that good then why swap him for Jerami? It would have to be a contender desperate for a guard at the deadline who lost their guard with an injury and happens to have an abundance of good forwards. Even as I type this it seems like a long shot. Essentially we need to root for the Pelicans to get off to a hot start and then hope CJ gets hurt so they are desperate to trade for Brogdon.

    I can't imagine there are too many teams that fit that description. Obviously just trading them for an ending contract and picks would be easier, but for me not as attractive. We also have to consider how players like Camara, Murray, and Rupert are developing.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I’m still hoping we could do a three team where Grant goes to Cleveland, Allen goes to another team, and that other team will hopefully have a wing for us.
     
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    Samuel James “Hollywood” Robinson

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    social team is fine. im guessing they all went out to dinner last night and only got the highlight package up. #itsStilltrainingcampforeveryone
     
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    Why doesn't anyone ever ask Billups: "Why haven't you been able to get better defense out of Simons?"
     
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    An honest response would have to be something like "Our whole team has sucked on defense, why are you so focused on Ant?"
     
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    My answer to Billups would be because he is the worst defender on the team. And you had two years to fix it.
     
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    well, off the top of my head, over the last couple of seasons:

    Mikal Bridges
    Cam Johnson
    Lauri Markkanen
    John Collins
    Jared Vanderbilt (twice)
    Josh Hart
    Jermai Grant
    Doug McDermott (might not fit the 'young' label)
    Rui Hachimura
    Jalen McDaniels

    now, if you were excluding forwards moved in block-buster trades, that would cut that list down. And if you were talking about all-star level forwards, the list gets even smaller

    but forwards do get moved, and many of them are starting level of decent quality

    in my view, Portland hasn't had a quality-level pair of starting forwards since Aldridge/Batum. I'm not talking high-quality; just average quality and I don't think Aminu/Harkless met even that average-quality standard, not if consistency was part of the equation. Considering that the power of the NBA is in those 2-way, 6'6-6'10 wings/forwards, the fact that Portland hasn't had a single one in 8 consecutive seasons is management malpractice
     
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    maybe because:

    defensive rating:

    Greg Brown III 114
    Jusuf Nurkić 114
    Drew Eubanks 115
    Gary Payton II 116
    Matisse Thybulle 116
    Justise Winslow 118
    Josh Hart 118
    John Butler 119
    Keon Johnson 119
    Cam Reddish 119
    Trendon Watford 119
    Kevin Knox 120
    Jabari Walker 120
    Nassir Little 120
    Jerami Grant 120
    Shaedon Sharpe 121
    Damian Lillard 121
    Anfernee Simons 123

    DBPM:

    Gary Payton II 1.4
    Matisse Thybulle 1.1
    Drew Eubanks 0.9
    Josh Hart 0.7
    Jusuf Nurkić 0.7
    Justise Winslow 0.6
    Greg Brown III 0.0
    Trendon Watford -0.4
    John Butler -0.8
    Damian Lillard -1.2
    Jerami Grant -1.4
    Nassir Little -1.4
    Cam Reddish -1.4
    Keon Johnson -1.6
    Shaedon Sharpe -2.0
    Jabari Walker -2.1
    Anfernee Simons -2.5
    Kevin Knox -2.7

    it's true, Portland had a bad chain on defense. But Ant was the weakest link on that chain while being 2nd on the team in total minutes. His defensive flaws were noticeable. And all indications are he will be the featured player & #1 option on the Blazers, who would probably like nothing better than for us to watch Ant on offense, and change the channel when he's on defense
     
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    I just listened to Billups media day presser. When asked what Simons needs to improve on, he didn't even mention defense. That was a surprise.
     
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    Building a strong bench for the future:

    Brogdon for Quentin Grimes
     
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    I think if the Clippers get off to a fast start and Kawhi and PG can show they can stay relatively healthy, the Clippers will push their chips in and trade for Brogdon.
     
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    I hope that Brogdon doesn't get a chance to watch video of Billups' media day presser because he said he was happy for Eubanks that he wasn't going to have to play with all these young guys.
     
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    I wonder if Cronin is going to see if this team can win. If they're a surprise team and doing well at the trade deadline, keep them together. If they are a lotto team, I think you have to look to deal guys like Grant, Brogdon, Thybulle and Simons....
     
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    Only 4 players from last year, tons of rooks and 1st/2nd yr players, I think we see how things go and evaluate talent/fit etc first several months, perhaps depending on how things go we make a deadline or sooner trade especially if some team thinks Brog or Time is missing link (and they are healthy) and is really willing to pay up. Great thing is there is NO pressure to do anything for a change so we can be very picky.
     
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