I wonder if Brogdon will be the best PG/SG on the market at the deadline, or could Trae request a trade if the Hawks aren’t in the playoff hunt. OG would be really interesting if it costed Brogdon and maybe a 1st. I like signing him for 4 years with a fourth year TO. If he agrees to re-sign with Portland, obviously you have to make the trade, he’d be the best SF here in a decade. This team could, and should, compete for a playoff spot in ‘24-‘25. OG and DA could lock up 2/3 of the front court spots through their rookie contract, and they still have all those 1sts to find great young players as Scoot and Shae enter their rookie extensions. That would be one hell of a decade, to be able to compete for HCA every year with the occasional lottery talent joining the team.
it just sounds like it's pretty pointless to have trade discussions with Toronto if Masai Ujiri is still the GM. And the Blazers can't afford to give up a 1st for what could be a 25 game rental
Yeah, obviously that trade wouldn’t happen without OG agreeing he’d re-sign here. You’re probably right about Masai
I saw one writer mentioning both Brogdon and Williams could be snagged by contenders at the trade deadline. I don't know if Blazers can keep them both. The team is flirting with the luxury tax, and might have to make salary room for another pair of amazing rookies next summer.
There are plenty of ways to get trade away salary this season. Once December rolls around, more possibilities can happen. Brogdon + Thybulle make almost as much money as Brogdon + Williams if Williams shows us he’s worth keeping here. I watched a Mavs vid where their guys were talking about the possibility of Williams, saying they wouldn’t give up a 1st, but felt a guy like Hardy + 2 2nds would be too low. If Williams isn’t definitively worth a 1st, he’s not worth getting rid of. Grant can still be traded. Ant is going to command a lot of interest next summer if he’s close to the 26/3/6 projection I have for him.
Perhaps that’s why Cronin is keeping Brogdon for now. There are a lot of players that can help us compete, and I think we could have a Jazz-like season this year. If (and likely, when) Jody tells him to cut salary, he can pick and choose between what pieces to trade based on the return he can get. If we are in the playoff hunt, expendable pieces look more valuable. I just hope Cronin pulls the plug sooner than Ainge did last season. Grant could get back a young player or a couple 1sts. Thybulle could get a protected 1st from the right team like the Mavs. Williams at the right price should be available as well. And of course, Brogdon’s $22m will already be coming off the books. There’s also a possibility we only draft one guy in the 1st round and simply use the GS pick to help us move up and grab the guy we want. We still have the Hawks 2nd. We’ll also have a bunch of 1sts in the future, it doesn’t make sense to get more than a couple players in a draft class that is supposedly weak.
Raptors rebuffed OG for THREE 1sts, they're not taking Brogdan, or anyone reasonable for him. Blazers will get a late 1st for Brogdan. I'd rather have Brogdan... UNLESS, we somehow are able to clear capspace for next offseason, which I doubt.
Bank Teller thinks Ant will be worth "multiple 1st's"?; you think he'll be converted into Mikal Bridges? my sarcasm detector must be broken
Because I’m very much not being sarcastic. These were Fox’s stats last year: 25/4/6 on .512/.324/.780 (attempts: 18/5/6) For reference, Ant’s stats last year were: 21.1/3/4 on .447/.377/.894 (attempts: 17/9/3) As the #1 option, I think Ant can and will get to that statline on less efficiency but better shooting. I’m not entirely sure the Kings are a lock to make the playoffs again. If the Kings and Blazers are around the same spot in the standings, Ant could get the same amount of consideration as Fox. I don’t think he’ll get Bridges, that’s kind of crazy. But I would be looking for one of Clowney or Whitehead with 2 PHX 1sts in ‘27 and ‘29 is what I think he could be worth by the end of next year.
I'm not sure if we could pry two picks out of this.... maybe only one? Maybe a pick and swap? Does Philly go for this?
If you're a seller, you shouldn't be giving up future assets anyway. If the Raptors feel they need a guy like Brogdon to put them over the top, there's no way the Blazers or any team with whom they're dealing for a similar player should have to sweeten the pot. If anything, it should be the other way around.